Breathalyzer Tests in Schools?
10-19-2009 at 03:00 PM
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I somehow can't see any one taking the "I was only pretending to be drunk, and didn't stop even after they told me I was being suspended" excuse seriously. If some one actually tried to make a fuss out of it, I'm sure the school could turn it from a "suspension for intoxication on school grounds" into "suspension for extreme disruptive behaviour" or something along those lines.
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I see what you're saying Andrew, but if you're going to suspend someone, you need proof. "Oh, they appeared drunk" isn't going to stand by the crazy parents who think their child would NEVER do ANYTHING bad.
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10-19-2009 at 05:50 PM
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What's a great way to get school attendance back up? Force a breathalyzer on them!
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10-19-2009 at 10:49 PM
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I see what you're saying Andrew, but if you're going to suspend someone, you need proof. "Oh, they appeared drunk" isn't going to stand by the crazy parents who think their child would NEVER do ANYTHING bad.
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Which was the point of my post. If someone tries to argue that their kid wasn't drunk, the school can just say: "Oh, our mistake. Your child was only pretending to be drunk. In that case we will rescind the 3 day suspension we gave him for Intoxication on School Grounds. However, your child acting drunk disrupted class, promoted alcohol use, etc. He now has a 3 day suspension for Extreme Disruption of Class".
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10-19-2009 at 11:01 PM
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Which was the point of my post. If someone tries to argue that their kid wasn't drunk, the school can just say: "Oh, our mistake. Your child was only pretending to be drunk. In that case we will rescind the 3 day suspension we gave him for Intoxication on School Grounds. However, your child acting drunk disrupted class, promoted alcohol use, etc. He now has a 3 day suspension for Extreme Disruption of Class".
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I highly doubt a kid would ever get a suspension like that with those reasonings. Even if they did, their parents would throw their stupid little hissy fits.
If I pretend to be high, I expect my locker to get searched for drugs. If you pretend to be drunk, expect someone to find proof of it. Especially on school grounds. I don't see anything wrong with making the kids take breathalyzers. If you're gonna be stupid, expect some consequences. I'm annoyed with the "but people have rights" arguments. You forfeit them when you act like a total tool. >_<
Dunno how it is in the states, but even at our school... how many times have people been suspended for being SO disruptive? I don't recall an incident.
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10-20-2009 at 12:32 AM
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I highly doubt a kid would ever get a suspension like that with those reasonings. Even if they did, their parents would throw their stupid little hissy fits.
If I pretend to be high, I expect my locker to get searched for drugs. If you pretend to be drunk, expect someone to find proof of it. Especially on school grounds. I don't see anything wrong with making the kids take breathalyzers. If you're gonna be stupid, expect some consequences. I'm annoyed with the "but people have rights" arguments. You forfeit them when you act like a total tool. >_<
Dunno how it is in the states, but even at our school... how many times have people been suspended for being SO disruptive? I don't recall an incident.
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Yeah, but our school also had people not being suspended for drinking on school grounds, so we might not be the best example
I'm pretty sure Steven Gruel got a suspension in elementary school though for extreme disruptiveness or something along those lines. He threw a desk though, which is probably tad worse than acting drunk.
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10-20-2009 at 10:56 AM
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No high school student should be showing up to school drunk/after drinking, that's for sure.
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What's wrong with having a drink or 2? I was legal age before I finished high school, and I'd stop for a beer on the way back from field trips. We also had a bar across the street that I'd go to for lunch sometimes, and have a beer or 2 with friends at lunch. Never went to class drunk or tipsy, and I was legal age. Why should it be an issue if the student is legal and not obviously drunk? Im pretty sure I was well above 0.02 when I'd get back from lunch, and never caused a problem.
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10-20-2009 at 11:15 AM
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If they are underage it makes sense but there shouldn't be a consequence for having a blood alcohol level of .02 if you are of legal age. I'm pretty sure that's not even considered "intoxicated".
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10-20-2009 at 11:22 AM
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Remember that in the states the legal drinking age is 21, so there are legal problems with high school kids with a couple drinks under their belt.
I for one think this is a decent idea. The US Education system has been failing in the last decade, and high school students definitely do not need to be drinking in such a system.
Although I do question the allocation of resources..
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10-20-2009 at 12:35 PM
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This is ridiculous. Kind of like how I got suspended a week in grade 12 for...... wait for it, wait for it......... truancy! With a 93% average! Yay
I think there's too much stupid shit like (breathalyzer) going on in schools; we need to bring back corporal punishment.
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10-20-2009 at 01:21 PM
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Remember that in the states the legal drinking age is 21, so there are legal problems with high school kids with a couple drinks under their belt.
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Maybe you didn't read my post above, but the legal age to purchase alcohol in the states is 21. In most states, there's no restrictions on minors consuming alcohol.
It's perfectly feasible and legal for a student to go home for lunch and have a glass of wine, and go back to school after. I'm sure that this is the case in many families, especially families that recently immigrated from Europe.
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