I believe so yes, but its quite possibly open to interpretation.

So if the crumbling city wasn't "limbo" but was rather Cobb's dream, how did Fischer get there? How did he enter Cobb's dream before Cobb? Also, Fischer died in the 3rd level, which, according to movie, would automatically send him to "limbo, wouldn't it?

EDIT: Here's a post I found on another forum that I think explains the "limbo" stage and age-difference between Cobb and Saito quite well:

"Level 4 =/= Limbo.

Level 4 is the deepest level with the strongest time dilation. Limbo is a state of mind where you forget you are dreaming and are trapped in Level 4.

There are two ways into Limbo:

1) Die in your dream while under sedation (Saito).

2) Spend too much time in Level 4 and slowly forget yourself (Mal).


There are two ways into Level 4:

1) Enter a state of Limbo.

2) Go in manually from Level 3.

If you are in Level 4 and NOT in a state of Limbo, you can escape back to Level 3 by giving yourself a kick. This is how Ariadne escaped Level 4. She just jumped off the building.

But if you are in a state of Limbo, there are only two ways to escape Level 4 and the Limbo state:

1) Dual synchronized kicks. This is how Fisher was rescued. The defibrillator plus being thrown off the building.

2) Wait it out until the sedatives wear off. In Level 4, this will feel like many decades. And this brings us to your answer.

You don't grow old in Level 4 unless you are in a state of Limbo (because in a state of Limbo, you think it is real). Saito thought it was real and thus grew old because he was in a state of Limbo the entire 80 years or so. Cobb was in Level 4 just as long (a little longer actually), but Cobb knew it wasn't real for most of the time he was there searching for Saito. But at some point, perhaps 30 years later started to lose himself and entered a state of Limbo himself. So then he started to age. We know this because he thought the food was real, and he looked like he was in his 40's or 50's. It seemed all he remembered was the name "Saito" and forget everything else. When Saito sees Cobb and his gun and his totem, Saito snaps out of the Limbo state, as he remembered everything. And by vocalizing his regained memories, Cobb then remembers as well. They essentially rescued each other. That is why when the sedatives wore off and those two awoke on the plane, they were not drooling vegetables. Had Cobb not rescued Saito and simply jumped off the building with Araidne to escape Level 4, Saito would have awoken a drooling vegetable and would not have been able to make the phone call to get Cobb's criminal charges dropped. "

amazing movie

Yes this movie was outstanding. Totally going to buy it on blueray when it's out.

And yes.. I am working on adding spoiler tags now!

UPDATE: Testing out new spoiler tag below...

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In the end his wife is the one that he tested inception on first

Mind.Explodes!

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Just when you thought you had it all figured out. And I agree with what Vivian Said, Since the director had around 10 years to plan it out the idea behid the film is to send the viewers into a frenzy of confusion and discussion. Essentially the concepts behind the movie are classic paradoxes that have some sections left intentionally left vague so people can garner their subjective meanings from it.

But ultimately it is a movie that has garnered intense discussion on forums & especially social media that creates a snowball effect of people wanting to "see what the fuss is about".

Its like Shutter Island except more accessible and modern.

Has anyone watched both Primer and Inception? Any comparisons between the two? I've watched Primer, but not Inception (yet) - the only reason I bring this up, is that everyone seems confused over Inception...something characteristic of Primer-watching, haha

Wow... the music slower. Another mind blown!

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Has anyone watched both Primer and Inception? Any comparisons between the two? I've watched Primer, but not Inception (yet) - the only reason I bring this up, is that everyone seems confused over Inception...something characteristic of Primer-watching, haha

I've seen both, and I can tell you right away that Primer is on a completely different level in terms of complexity. You can reasonably have a solid understanding of what happened in Inception after the first watch, even if you're confused about a few aspects.

It will take at least 2-3 watches of Primer to get to that point, lol.


Also, Huzaifa, I totally posted the same video last page

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i just think the wobbling in the end meant that it didn't matter anymore since he was where he wanted to be.

@nikita: no, his dad was in Paris I think and he went to US later, that's how Cobb sent all the gifts

@chad: where's the Spoiler "button" ?!?! and the spoiler "box" tag is a much better implementation IMO

^ oh man LOL

Ah, of course!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O80Orl8r1JE&f eature=related

omg the movie is fantasticcc!

I LOVED this movie.

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I don't know about you guys, but when I watched it, the last scene with the wobbling spin top, EVERYONE in the audience let out an in sync groan/sigh when the movie just ended - no topple! Lol it was hilarious, everyone was holding their breath. But I personally think he's still dreaming. For one, don't you think it was important he pass through each of the dream states? I mean, Adriadne's (Ellen Page) eyes opened successively in each dream, from the snowy alps, to the hotel to the van in the water. Cobb skipped straight through from the 5th layer (which I'm assuming was his own dream, right? He wasn't still in the 4th layer, cause then how would he wash up on the sea again? But then maybe it was Saito's dream, because there were his guards (projections?)) to the wake state. Just seemed a bit off...

And someone mentioned the aging of the kids. I think they'd be older because even though time passes slower in the dream state, I got the feeling that a lot of time passed even in the wake state - maybe they were purposely vague about that. So yeah, I think the kids should have been older.

But Saito, he would be the same age when he woke up. If the anasthetic turns 5 'real' minutes into 10 years in the third level, the 4th (or 5th) level would be about as many needed to get Saito that old. So yeah, I guess very little time has passed in reality.

One thing that seemed off though is why was Saito so old while Cobb was still young?


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