hello. I'm a grade 12 student. I am going to apply to McMaster Life Science and Health Science undergrad.
On the website, it is mentioned that you need an 86 TOEFL score, would a score lower than 86 affect my acceptance ?
If my total average is above the cut off average, will a TOEFL score less than 86 affect my chances of getting accepted. Thanks alot

Originally Posted by Nueloas

hello. I'm a grade 12 student. I am going to apply to McMaster Life Science and Health Science undergrad.
On the website, it is mentioned that you need an 86 TOEFL score, would a score lower than 86 affect my acceptance ?
If my total average is above the cut off average, will a TOEFL score less than 86 affect my chances of getting accepted. Thanks alot

TOEFL is "test of english as a foreign language" and only applies to you if you do not speak english fluently(mainly international students and recent immigrants). For canadians who speak english fluently you only need to pass the grade 10 literacy test. Based on your post I don't think this is a problem for you. But yes, if you are required to take the test and you don't meet the score I imagine it will be a negative factor in whether or not you are accepted into your programs.

Back in grade ten, I had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test...

Originally Posted by Desda

Back in grade ten, I had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test...

Back in grade ten, I also had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test. Oh wait, never mind, it actually happened. I honestly don't see how people fail it. Most of the test was just answering questions on short stories. The short story was right there so you could go back and reread sections to find the answers. It's more or less an open book test..

Originally Posted by Replekia

Back in grade ten, I also had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test. Oh wait, never mind, it actually happened. I honestly don't see how people fail it. Most of the test was just answering questions on short stories. The short story was right there so you could go back and reread sections to find the answers. It's more or less an open book test..

But how can you pass an open book test if you can't read?

Originally Posted by Replekia

TOEFL is "test of english as a foreign language" and only applies to you if you do not speak english fluently(mainly international students and recent immigrants). For canadians who speak english fluently you only need to pass the grade 10 literacy test. Based on your post I don't think this is a problem for you. But yes, if you are required to take the test and you don't meet the score I imagine it will be a negative factor in whether or not you are accepted into your programs.

You also have to take the TOEFL if you haven't lived in an English speaking country for 2 years, or maybe 3, something along those lines, the gr 10 literacy test doesn't apply for Mac's language proficiency requirements, you just need it to graduate from high school

Originally Posted by anthony

But how can you pass an open book test if you can't read?

How can you make it to grade 10 without being able to read?

Originally Posted by waldo92

You also have to take the TOEFL if you haven't lived in an English speaking country for 2 years, or maybe 3, something along those lines, the gr 10 literacy test doesn't apply for Mac's language proficiency requirements, you just need it to graduate from high school

you need to pass the test to graduate though; ergo it is a requirement.

Originally Posted by Nueloas

hello. I'm a grade 12 student. I am going to apply to McMaster Life Science and Health Science undergrad.
On the website, it is mentioned that you need an 86 TOEFL score, would a score lower than 86 affect my acceptance ?
If my total average is above the cut off average, will a TOEFL score less than 86 affect my chances of getting accepted. Thanks alot

I know U of T has a discretionary range (i.e. if your toefl marks are 3-5 points under the requirement, they're willing to let that go if you meet the other requirements). I'm not too sure if Mac has something similar, ask your guidance counselor at high school.

Originally Posted by Replekia

you need to pass the test to graduate though; ergo it is a requirement.

yeah, but it doesn't replace the TOEFL requirement, which is what the OP's talking about

http://registrar.mcmaster.ca /future/engli.html

says nothing about a discretionary range, it'd be best to ask one of the people on this page
http://registrar.mcmaster.ca /futur...n-contact.html

Originally Posted by Replekia

Back in grade ten, I also had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test. Oh wait, never mind, it actually happened. I honestly don't see how people fail it. Most of the test was just answering questions on short stories. The short story was right there so you could go back and reread sections to find the answers. It's more or less an open book test..

I agree, I also received 100%. I guess maybe some kids don't speak "proper English." I think it depends on your grammar. Also spelling, of course. Best part of grade ten literacy test: we got a free breakfast (if you came early enough) and milk and cookies during the break! Milk and cookies! Like kindergarten!

We were never told what % we got. o.o; Just "pass" or "fail." Also, we got crappy juice boxes... ]:

I WANT SOME COOKEHS

Originally Posted by Desda

We were never told what % we got. o.o; Just "pass" or "fail." Also, we got crappy juice boxes... ]:

I WANT SOME COOKEHS

Me neither. I wish I got my mark back; I remember I messed up a really stupid part of the test (I think I wrote too many words in my newspaper article or something) so for a while I thought I'd fail. :(

Originally Posted by Desda

Back in grade ten, I had a dream that I got perfect on the literacy test...

91% on TOEFL Paper-based

The Literacy test was epic! At our school, a few people rounded up and pledged to write about chuck norris wherever possible on it. Something I will never forget!