Uhh, i want to point out that we are a fairly large faculty - not "nowhere near" the largest! We are fairly significant!! We rank in the top 3 engineering schools in canada most years!
07 stats:
Humanities - 1436
Science - 1188
Commerce/Mgmt/Business Admin - 697
Engineering - 665 (I believe in 08, last year, there was closer to 1000)
Among other data there...

And yes, we do share classrooms all over campus and require many labs for our 10+ streams!!

Also, having tenured profs has nothing to do with our new building.

Also also, this thread is way off topic.

I walk/bike by the new building every day to/from work, and they're always working hard on it! they put in a new sidewalk beside momac, and are nearly done the front. Don't know about the interior, but i'm pretty sure it will come together in time

Originally Posted by tauntobr

I'm not sure what will happen there, but I imagine that it's so successful that GSA will probably look to keep the pub/bar business model.

Except that the GSA is part of CFS and Mac admin doesn't exactly care for the CFS.

Rumour has it that this particular reason is why the GSA has not been successful in relocation attempts to the Refectory, on top of Bridges.

Originally Posted by micadjems

Uhh, i want to point out that we are a fairly large faculty - not "nowhere near" the largest! We are fairly significant!! We rank in the top 3 engineering schools in canada most years!
07 stats:
Humanities - 1436
Science - 1188
Commerce/Mgmt/Business Admin - 697
Engineering - 665 (I believe in 08, last year, there was closer to 1000)
Among other data there...

And yes, we do share classrooms all over campus and require many labs for our 10+ streams!!

Also, having tenured profs has nothing to do with our new building.

Also also, this thread is way off topic.

I walk/bike by the new building every day to/from work, and they're always working hard on it! they put in a new sidewalk beside momac, and are nearly done the front. Don't know about the interior, but i'm pretty sure it will come together in time

First of all, what are those numbers? First years? Science is the largest on campus, with over 5000 students. Eng, like I said, is nowhere near that number. Not even close. The second largest faculty at Mac is Soc Sci, and so I'm really wondering where these numbers come from, and what they represent because humanities simply doesn't have more students than anyone...

It's not supposed to be a bad thing; it's simply a fact.

Originally Posted by tauntobr

First of all, what are those numbers? First years? Science is the largest on campus, with over 5000 students. Eng, like I said, is nowhere near that number. Not even close. The second largest faculty at Mac is Soc Sci, and so I'm really wondering where these numbers come from, and what they represent because humanities simply doesn't have more students than anyone...

It's not supposed to be a bad thing; it's simply a fact.

I believe someone is jealous.

Originally Posted by Ownaginatios

I believe someone is jealous.

Lol hardly. The reason I joined Macinsiders was because of the rampant misinformation I heard was going around here. I'm simply trying to ensure that the proper facts are laid out.

Originally Posted by tauntobr

Lol hardly. The reason I joined Macinsiders was because of the rampant misinformation I heard was going around here. I'm simply trying to ensure that the proper facts are laid out.

Ya, ooooooooooooooooooooo okay

lololol. yeah are you the fact police? how come you didnt look up the facts yourself and post them if you're so concerned?

also, please note i posted the link in my reason for editing. here it is again, in case you're too lazy to look. http://www.mcmaster.ca/avpira/cudo/2...20072008B.html

We also have a smaller faculty because of our limited lab spaces (hence the new building..) We have to cap our first years or there would be more second years than there is space for in each program!

Originally Posted by micadjems

lololol. yeah are you the fact police? how come you didnt look up the facts yourself and post them if you're so concerned?

I've been looking for them, but total enrolment by faculty seems to be unavailable on McMaster's website, and the source you gave me clumps humanities and soc sci together, so that particular number is misleading and useless for this purpose.

Regardless, I found Engineering's total enrolment for 2008, which was at 3006 students. This number is available here: http://www.eng.mcmaster.ca/documents...report2007.pdf

Science's numbers don't seem to be available online for whatever reason. Regardless, from last years elections we had just over 5000 students. Take it for what it's worth.

I actually wouldn't mind being called the "fact police". Misinformation is a problem, and that's why sourcing is important. The MSU deals with a lot of student issues, and if rumours and incorrect information are floating around, it makes our jobs as advocates and student representatives that much more difficult.

Originally Posted by micadjems

also, please note i posted the link in my reason for editing. here it is again, in case you're too lazy to look. http://www.mcmaster.ca/avpira/cudo/2...20072008B.html

That link has info about applicants and admission averages...

Here's the actual numbers, on page 17. http://www.mcmaster.ca/univsec/mtgdo...&AP_081112.pdf

The snarky comments are really unnecessary. Ben is trying to ensure that the proper numbers are out there, since when is being 'the fact police' a bad thing?

Here are the numbers for faculty enrollment in 2007 (also found on CUDO:

http://www.mcmaster.ca/avpira/cudo/2...20072008A.html

If someone wants to collate those, I'm sure tons of people would appreciate it.

i pointed that out because he was talking about how there was so much misinformation... but didn't do anything about it.

like... thanks, but if you're not going to help

I gave a link, at least it was something compared to random numbers people were throwing out. I really don't care if my faculty is the biggest - how does it make it better in any way?

Actually those numbers are kinda strange because Social Science is underrepresented thanks to the "Other Arts and Science" column...

Originally Posted by deadpool

Actually those numbers are kinda strange because Social Science is underrepresented thanks to the "Other Arts and Science" column...

Here are the correct numbers, in a much easier to view way, on pg 17. http://www.mcmaster.ca/univsec/mtgdo...&AP_081112.pdf

Originally Posted by tauntobr

Regardless, I found Engineering's total enrolment for 2008, which was at 3006 students. This number is available here: http://www.eng.mcmaster.ca/documents...report2007.pdf

The enrollment for 08 came from annual report 07? That's fun. Anyways, last years numbers were around 3500/3600 (Based on fees paid to the student society last year) Sure, we're smaller than Science... but saying "not even close" is an exaggeration. Remember, Computer Science and B-Tech are also part of our numbers.

Also - the engineering building is being built largely unfunded. A large chunk of its funding did come from the government for the B-Tech program which is why a lot of original plans got thrown out the window. We lost our new lounge space and club space that had been allocated for us to make room for B-Tech since they were the ones getting the money. There's not going to be many classrooms in the building anyways, and engineers after 2nd year won't really have a reason to go. Most of it is offices (faculty and graduate studies), labs, a few tutorial rooms for 1st years and a computer lab. Engineers are hardly getting all this new classroom space that other faculties are being "jipped out of".

I had just as many classes in your run down rooms in the arts quad as you did.

Originally Posted by DavidR

I had just as many classes in your run down rooms in the arts quad as you did.

Exactly! I'm fresh out of first year eng and I only had two of my 11 classes in JHE. I spent the rest of my time in BSB, TSH, KTH, CNH, ITB, MDCL, and HSC. It would have been nice to have a more central location instead of bouncing between lecture halls and labs in 8 different buildings on campus.