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					Originally Posted by  RyanC
					 
				 
				Use money and resources to attract good profs to Mac, implement a program for evaluating and advocating the removal of professors during the semester, an upper-year run MSU-supported peer tutoring for specific courses, or events that showcase good professors throughout the year.  I see a lot of very 'safe' things being tackled usually seeming not to step on people's toes; no actual solving of issues...?  
			
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 Hey Ryan,
Good ideas. I agree that there need to be some major  changes made to the quality and format of our education here at Mac. The  MSU obviously holds a considerable amount of sway, but some ideas are  easier said than done. I understand your concern over 'safe' issues as  opposed to change. We have complete control over how the MSU operates,  but when it comes to making changes to the university institution, all  we can do is advocate; we can't force them to do anything. So yes, we do  offer/promote things like social campaigns, clubs, teaching awards,  businesses and services (I assume that's what you mean by safe things)  because we can do these effectively within our organization (and do a  damn good job with them). Making headway into educational issues is  slightly more difficult, but definitely still doable. When communicating  with the university, we just need to be clear with what the problem is,  what we are proposing, and how to go about changing it (i.e. less  complaining, more addressing, suggesting, and solving). For example:
-  Using money and resources to attract good profs isn't specific enough  as a solution. It seems to me that once a professor begins teaching at a  university, they typically stay there for the remainder of their  teaching career (not likely to switch schools). Mac, like other schools,  does have its fair share of less than stellar professors... but how do  they get their positions? From what I know, it's a weird cycle. A lot of  profs begin as fellows, like apprentices to the current professor at  the school. Then they work their way up to teaching more through the  prof in place. So that's probably the problem; maybe this is a system  that's in need of change. That's a tough one though, since it's such an  engrained way of doing things (grad school --> PhD --> teaching  fellowship --> tenured prof). 
- I like your ideas of  implementing an advocating system to notify the university of subpar  professors. It sounds similar to the Ombuds office that we currently  have, yet the ombuds generally deal with specific issues that a student  may have against a prof (among many other things). But yeah, what about  profs that simply just aren't very good at teaching? Now that kind of  issue is something the MSU could look into; but getting a prof fired is  not something that the university will take lightly, or even want to do.  Again, maybe fixing those types of situations from the beginning (as  mentioned above) would be more effective. 
I'm on the SRA this  year (Science caucus), as well as the Teaching Awards committee. I'll be  sure to pass on your ideas about prof quality, teaching advocacy  programs and peer-tutoring programs to the VP Ed (Huzaifa Saeed) and  your idea about prof showcasing events to the TAC Co-ordinator (Rebecca  McDougall).