I made my stand clear in my first post. The three bolded parts is where I stand.

Reason 50000000000* I dislike the no campaign. Must of their discourse insinuates that people who are not on the no side do not care about human rights.


*yes I'm exaggerating

Originally Posted by sew12

Reason 50000000000* I dislike the no campaign. Must of their discourse insinuates that people who are not on the no side do not care about human rights.


*yes I'm exaggerating

I wasn't insinuating anything.

My personal reason for not consuming Coca-Cola products is because of their international business practices. I think that a majority of people, especially today, care about human rights.

However, it's very difficult to make lifestyle changes when things like consumerism have been so ingrained in our culture. I don't think any less of anyone who purchases Coke. It's a personal choice.

Also, Temara/Danielle/Chad, for some reason the 'like' or 'thanks' button for the OP doesn't work.

Originally Posted by sew12

Reason 50000000000* I dislike the no campaign. Must of their discourse insinuates that people who are not on the no side do not care about human rights.


*yes I'm exaggerating

Now why would you say that =). I don't think so. I think you care about human rights. You just have a different view on what you think is best for the university. Am I wrong? You should not make claims like that, saying that the no campaign insinuates that kind of thought. =)

Originally Posted by Jay

I wasn't insinuating anything.

My personal reason for not consuming Coca-Cola products is because of their international business practices. I think that a majority of people, especially today, care about human rights.

However, it's very difficult to make lifestyle changes when things like consumerism have been so ingrained in our culture. I don't think any less of anyone who purchases Coke. It's a personal choice.

Also, Temara/Danielle/Chad, for some reason the 'like' or 'thanks' button for the OP doesn't work.

I didn't say you personally had insinuated that. Your post just reminded me of that.

Juana, just like you personally feel a certain way about the Coca Cola issue I feel a certain way about the way the NO campaign has been run. I've actually heard people who are on the no side of the campaign say that if you care about human rights/humanitarian issues you should vote no, insinuating that if I don't vote no that I don't care about these issues. I care very deeply about human rights, I just don't see substantial proof of many of the claims people are making against the corporation. Also people have to remember corporations are massive and claiming an entire corporation violates human rights is very, very misleading.

Originally Posted by Jay

Also, Temara/Danielle/Chad, for some reason the 'like' or 'thanks' button for the OP doesn't work.

...weird...

Thanks for letting us know!

Broken code is super frustrating.

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That's the error that pops up btw.

Originally Posted by sew12

I didn't say you personally had insinuated that. Your post just reminded me of that.

I've actually heard people who are on the no side of the campaign say that if you care about human rights/humanitarian issues you should vote no.

That seems like a proper statement.

If I believe that what I'm fighting for is part of human rights support, then I'd believe that if you support human right you might support what I'm fighting for (which is a part of human rights support).

I hope I didn't lose you there.

But that does not mean that if you are against me, you are against the umbrella of human rights. I think you jumped a bit there on that one.. haha! =)


On this "corporations are massive and claiming an entire corporation violates human rights is very, very misleading."

It kinda does, since the part of the corporation participating, well, is the corporation. You can't really split it into "mini-corporation over there in that corner, that still happens to be us but not really".. haha! you get me?

On a separate matter, Thank you sew12 for not trolling and bashing me in this thread. I was a bit worried about posting, because I heard that we were being called the "crazy side" on macinsiders, and that our arguments dismissed as foolish and made up.

I haven't looked for into the posts themselves to see that's true and though normally I would, because I like to find out and verify information on my own, I don't want to, because it would probably upset me to see that kind of thing at an established university. Though from the posters that recently went up for the NO side, I suppose some really do think ppl making it up and crazy, or at least want others to think that way.

But I digress, thank you for actually being nice in your replies while you argue your points. Good karma to you! lol! =)

I hope you don't think negatively of people with other opinions either. We're passionate about it, and firmly believe in what we stand for. I hope you respect that.

I'm not here to bash or troll people, that would be supremely juvenile. I disagree with the no campaign in many ways but I'm not going to go out of my way to troll them. They're free to have their opinions.

Thanks for your response, Jay. I understand what you're trying to say about our right to have choice, but isn't that point a bit overemphasized when it's likely that at most there's only going to be a 80/20 ratio (and that's being very generous, it could be more like a 90/10 or the 93/7 as it is today)? The way I see it, a complete "right to choice" would mean a much even distribution of coke/pepsi/whatever products on campus.

I also see what you mean by the human rights issue, but is this really gonna accomplish anything if Coke isn't banned outright? Coke won't care if Mac students refuse to accept any benefit that would come in an exclusivity deal.

And this ties to the "right to choice" point: even if there's no exclusivity deal, it's likely that 93% of all products will still be Coke products. I could see only the most extreme anti-Coke people going out of their way to not purchase a Coke product, as many Coke and non-Coke products are perfect substitutes to one another.