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		Two questions, if anyone could answer that would be awesome.   
1. If we have a full year course, but we wrote an exam, will we find out our marks from mugsi or something, or do we have to wait? 
2.  Say I calculated my mark to 89.8...will that be an 11 or a 12? 
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			12-21-2009 at 03:53 PM
			
						
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				Two questions, if anyone could answer that would be awesome.   
1. If we have a full year course, but we wrote an exam, will we find out our marks from mugsi or something, or do we have to wait? 
2.  Say I calculated my mark to 89.8...will that be an 11 or a 12? 
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 1. You won't necessarily get a mark because it's not a final mark.  Therefore the professor isn't required to send marks to the Registrar yet, but it is possible.
 
2. I don't think McMaster rounds the marks... so it would be an 11.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 1. It depends. Some profs will put your marks up in December, some will wait until May. 
2. I'm pretty sure 89.8% would be an 11, but your prof might be nice and bump it to 12. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
 
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		 I'd put my bet that it's a 12.  McMaster truncates the marks so they do get rounded, in your case, up to 90%. You'd have to find a pretty mean prof to not have that become a 12 anyways. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I'm taking french 1z06 and this course continues onto next semester, based on previous experience does anyone know if their mark actually got posted for this course? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 oh so profs do have a final say on marks (like for rounding)? Even if it's a course with 300 people? I just thought it was all automatic. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				oh so profs do have a final say on marks (like for rounding)? Even if it's a course with 300 people? I just thought it was all automatic. 
			
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 Professors always has a say on marks because they are the ones who decide if they want to lower what the tests and exams are out of, etc...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				I'm taking french 1z06 and this course continues onto next semester, based on previous experience does anyone know if their mark actually got posted for this course? 
			
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 You may get a midterm mark; but it's not required for profs to post one.  If you had an exam during December this seems to be more likely, however.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				I'm taking french 1z06 and this course continues onto next semester, based on previous experience does anyone know if their mark actually got posted for this course? 
			
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 It depends on your prof. I took French 1K06 with Banks and there was no December mark.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				oh so profs do have a final say on marks (like for rounding)? Even if it's a course with 300 people? I just thought it was all automatic. 
			
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 Yes and no.
 
Profs release your final percentage grade (including the mark you got on the exam) to the registrar. The registrar determines your grade point/letter grade. So if your mark is 89.999999 and there's no grade adjustment (notice how I didn't say bell curve   ) on the registrar's part, you'll get an 11. If the prof forwards your mark as 90.0, then you'll get a 12.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				It depends on your prof. I took French 1K06 with Banks and there was no December mark. 
			
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				Yes and no. 
Profs release your final percentage grade (including the mark you got on the exam) to the registrar. The registrar determines your grade point/letter grade. So if your mark is 89.999999 and there's no grade adjustment (notice how I didn't say bell curve   ) on the registrar's part, you'll get an 11. If the prof forwards your mark as 90.0, then you'll get a 12.  
			
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 So essentially if their Prof isn't evil they should end up with a 12.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I think it's really lame when they don't round up, especially since 12 just has a much better ring to it than 11. And 89.9 = 11, yeah, pure evil. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Actually, if you think about it Mac's grading system allows for no rounding. 
 
All of our grades go to a full grade (69, 72, 84 etc).  So if you have a 69.9 for example...your grade doesn't exist according to the scale. 
 
Similarly if you have an A- average, it's anything over a 9.5...but the grade of A- starts at 10.  It's...weird, to say the least. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I remember asking about that in my first year and an administrator (I think it was at the Faculty at Science office?) told me that McMaster essentially uses right class boundaries for marks. For instance 
 
[80-85) = A-: 80 up to but excluding 85 is a 10  
[85-90) = A: 85 up to but excluding 90 is an 11  
 
That means 84.9 is a 10 unless they specifically round it to 85.0 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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