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i wana change my program , i wana go environmental science

Originally Posted by dmzz

My advice? Whatever it is you do, work 110% at it. If you hate it, you can switch, but at least you can look back and be proud at what you did. If you love it, and find out in 3rd or 4th year it is what you want to "do" you are going to wish you worked harder earlier on. Opportunities will make themselves apparent to anyone who is good at anything they do. Whatever you have fun doing, do it; if you find something else you enjoy MORE, do that.

This is excellent, EXCELLENT advice!

Originally Posted by jamescw1234

Social work is probably the only program where it's normal to call your prof by first name, and considered strange and awkward if you call them by last name.

Just sayin'

Haha. Indigenous Studies is the same way, partially because it is a small department!

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I started out in Psych, and hated it. In second year I became an Anthro major, and for third year I became a combined Honours student in Anthro and Cultural Studies. After finishing that degree, I started a second honours degree in English with a minor in Indigenous Studies.

I loved my years at Mac, and miss it a lot! Although I learned a LOT in classes, it is what I did outside of class - both extra-curriculars, volunteering and part-time work - that really made the difference for me and helped me learn the skills I needed that I applied to the workforce.

Have you ever considered Kinesiology? Are you more interested in HUMAN related science, or just the general bio/chem/physics, etc...? Cause I loved bio in high school when we were studying human stuff, but everything else just bored me. I got accepted to both Kin and Life Sci with an 87% in 2nd semester, but in the end I chose Kin over life sci. Cause I knew I wouldn't be able to bear the whole Bio/Chem/Physics thing over again (even though I did pretty well in those classes in high school). And I'm still taking science classes, but they're all related to only the human body, which is good and i'm taking some life sci courses too, so you can still go for the chem and physics even if you're in Kin...oh and the program is only around 200 people

Originally Posted by lorend

I started out in Psych, and hated it. In second year I became an Anthro major, and for third year I became a combined Honours student in Anthro and Cultural Studies. After finishing that degree, I started a second honours degree in English with a minor in Indigenous Studies.

How can you hate psych its so interesting D:

I would have done honours bio + psych, but i hate the tests in psych

I guess i just answered my own question

Why would you want to go to McMaster? This place sucks. The people suck, the facilities suck, the profs suck.

Don't set your standards so low.

Originally Posted by eullwm

the profs suck.

For the most part, yes.

Are you watching Lincecum dominate out there?

Don't follow the "if you like physics and math, go for engineering" line. If you like to know why things in math or physics are the way they are, look into the math or physics programs at Mac - now, if you don't really care all that stuff, eng works...

Honours Chemical Biology Ftw

Originally Posted by eullwm

Why would you want to go to McMaster? This place sucks. The people suck, the facilities suck, the profs suck.

Don't set your standards so low.

Why are you still at Mac then? There are plenty of other universities you can transfer to.

Originally Posted by Bhaltair

Why are you still at Mac then? There are plenty of other universities you can transfer to.

Like hell I'm pissing away a year or more having to re-do courses because they only accept a certain number for transfers. I'm not dumping more time and money down the toilet like that-- that's even dumber than coming to this garbage school.

You can definitely transfer into health sci after a year in life sci (that's what i did), and you won't be a year behind or anything

Originally Posted by eullwm

Like hell I'm pissing away a year or more having to re-do courses because they only accept a certain number for transfers. I'm not dumping more time and money down the toilet like that-- that's even dumber than coming to this garbage school.

You're already pissing away a year, you're taking Management for god's sake. You're better off getting a M.Eng degree if you wish to stay for another year. So technically, you already dumped more money than needed.

Management, Societies and all of the mumbo jumbo is just downright silly. Employers are looking for people who have experience, period. A B.Eng degree is all you need to get your foot in the door.

Your window of opportunity to gain a 1 year of invaluable experience went down the drain. Remember, we only get to live once and life is short.

Originally Posted by eullwm

Like hell I'm pissing away a year or more having to re-do courses because they only accept a certain number for transfers. I'm not dumping more time and money down the toilet like that-- that's even dumber than coming to this garbage school.

Problem is you went to a school that is heavily health and science oriented and expect to get a good engineering education. Should have gone to Waterloo, UofT, even Ryerson. Coming from the electrical department at Ryerson I can tell you that some of the profs are brilliant. School not so much. But it seems that's one of your criteria.

Originally Posted by Bhaltair

You're already pissing away a year, you're taking Management for god's sake. You're better off getting a M.Eng degree if you wish to stay for another year. So technically, you already dumped more money than needed.

Management, Societies and all of the mumbo jumbo is just downright silly. Employers are looking for people who have experience, period. A B.Eng degree is all you need to get your foot in the door.

Your window of opportunity to gain a 1 year of invaluable experience went down the drain. Remember, we only get to live once and life is short.

Unlike transferring, Management actually gets me something. Management is also a solid investment: for another 10k I get to shave a year off of an MBA should I choose to pursue one (which I intend to sometime after graduating). Employers are also looking for people who have a knowledge beyond just their field, and especially for people who are capable of working in interdisciplinary teams. All of which the "mumbo jumbo" covers.

Finally, don't care. What's 1 years difference, especially when I'll retire at the same age anyway were I to do a straight degree? It's not like I'll have magically earned an extra year to live solely by virtue of what I had--or didn't have-- tacked onto my major.

/srs

Originally Posted by pavlov

Problem is you went to a school that is heavily health and science oriented and expect to get a good engineering education. Should have gone to Waterloo, UofT, even Ryerson. Coming from the electrical department at Ryerson I can tell you that some of the profs are brilliant. School not so much. But it seems that's one of your criteria.

I expected this school not to be a festering pile of shit, considering it's consistently ranked higher than most other schools in Canada. I've had a few good profs, and all of them are brilliant in their own way-- it's simply a matter of whether or not they make going to class worth it, or making it even worthwhile to take the class. Open-book tests with the answers in the book? MATLAB assignments that people cheat 100% on because they're too stupid to do a single thing for themselves? I'd much prefer to get something from the class instead of a letter on a piece of paper. Knowledge trumps a grade, but sadly, I'm just paying for a piece of paper.

If I had not pissed away my marks working 4pm-12pm excessively in grade 12 I would have definitely gone to Waterloo. Paying my dues for another 2.5 years because of that stupid mistake.

Originally Posted by Arrogant

How can you hate psych its so interesting D:

I would have done honours bio + psych, but i hate the tests in psych

I guess i just answered my own question

Testing under Dr. Day in first year was much worse than what it's like now. That's why I switched, mostly.