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Old 10-31-2010 at 11:53 AM   #1
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Why is prostitution illegal?
We pay for tv, internet, gaming consoles, bowling, etc. and we pay for services that people provide to us.

With that being said it's considered both unethical and illegal to receive these things without paying for them.

So why is it both frowned upon and illegal to pay for one particular good/service? (I mostly just care about the legality part)

Technically, should we not feel bad for NOT paying for it?

Serious discussion thread. I will report "trollers," flame-baiters, and anyone who posts off-topic.

Side note: I realize that in some parts of the world prostitution is legal. They're obviously way ahead of the curve.

Side note #2: Before someone says otherwise, it is this black and white.
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Old 10-31-2010 at 11:57 AM   #2
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According to wikipedia its not illegal in Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit...e_ law#Canada
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Old 10-31-2010 at 11:59 AM   #3
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Yeah, I mean you got all these girls at Mac just giving it away for free at a moments notice, when they could be making some good money. I respect prostitutes way more than your typical slutty Mac girl.
Old 10-31-2010 at 12:00 PM   #4
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I would say my view on this is similar to my view on why marijuana is illegal. I believe it has to do with control. The government doesn't want you messing with the machine by indulging freely and easily in activities that go against the need for more money, a stronger economy, and longer working weeks.

Also, now that I think about it... maybe they don't want the increase in hospital cases that might result from a flash spread of STIs. I would imagine this would put a dent in health care resources (albeit how large is debatable).

I think the traditional ways of getting laid (ie. go on dates, gifts, etc.) naturally drives the consumer market to some extent.

EDIT: After viewing that wikipedia post on it being legal in Canada, my arguments stand for why public communication of prostitution transactions is illegal.
Old 10-31-2010 at 12:01 PM   #5
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According to wikipedia its not illegal in Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostit...the_law#Can ada

You're missing the point.
But if you want to go that route, we can.

If the act itself isn't illegal, why make all the other aspects to facilitating this act illegal? Let it be run like a business.
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Old 10-31-2010 at 12:05 PM   #6
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I would say my view on this is similar to my view on why marijuana is illegal. I believe it has to do with control. The government doesn't want you messing with the machine by indulging freely and easily in activities that go against the need for more money, a stronger economy, and longer working weeks.

Also, now that I think about it... maybe they don't want the increase in hospital cases that might result from a flash spread of STIs. I would imagine this would put a dent in health care resources (albeit how large is debatable).

I think the traditional ways of getting laid (ie. go on dates, gifts, etc.) naturally drives the consumer market to some extent.
I'm not quite I understand how paying for sex goes against the need for more money and a stronger economy. Care to elaborate?

I don't think paying for sex will decrease that whole market you referred to. Being able to pay for sex doesn't mean that suddenly everyone will stop going on dates and drop their consumer behaviors. It just means that when someone is horny and they have nobody around, they can take care of without any hassle while having fun, etc.
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Old 10-31-2010 at 12:05 PM   #7
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I completely agree. Its a service like any other, and should have a legal market value. By bringing it out in the open it will be safer too.

And yea....in Ontario especially it is already almost completely legal.

http://www.deathandtaxesmag. com/30...move-up-north/

http://news.nationalpost.com /2010/...titution-laws/

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Justice Susan Himel concluded that prohibiting sex-trade workers from operating a common bawdy house, living off the avails of prostitution and communicating for the purposes of prostitution, violate the Charter of Rights.
Old 10-31-2010 at 12:07 PM   #8
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I think the biggest reason (past individual beliefs, and morals) is because it is a major contribution to human trafficking, I mean like 2 weeks ago they caught a guy in BC, who was trafficking women from china, locking them in an apartment to serve as prostitutes
Old 10-31-2010 at 12:11 PM   #9
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I think the biggest reason (past individual beliefs, and morals) is because it is a major contribution to human trafficking, I mean like 2 weeks ago they caught a guy in BC, who was trafficking women from china, locking them in an apartment to serve as prostitutes
But I think that's because people realize there's a market for it, and regular joe-blows won't choose that as a job if there's no security because of legal issues.

If it's legal and the population is made extremely aware of that fact, would there be a need for hoarding foreigners and treating them like shit? Probably not.

(I mean even now, I've been telling people that prostitution is pretty much legal in Canada and every single person has said "no it isn't." People aren't being made aware and they should be)
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Old 10-31-2010 at 12:12 PM   #10
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I'm not quite I understand how paying for sex goes against the need for more money and a stronger economy. Care to elaborate?

I don't think paying for sex will decrease that whole market you referred to. Being able to pay for sex doesn't mean that suddenly everyone will stop going on dates and drop their consumer behaviors. It just means that when someone is horny and they have nobody around, they can take care of without any hassle while having fun, etc.
Well I'm thinking of this concept I read in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. That society was under a maximum effort for societal conditioning. Oddly enough, they have banned anything to do with nature, flowers, nature's beauty. Why? Maybe because people will stop running the rat race and wake up and smell the (free) coffee so to speak.

As for the second point, I would say that there is a portion of the population that is strictly interested in sex without all the fuss that goes into dating and spending money on things that don't directly correlate to the end goal. However, since these are the rituals in place, they simultaneously drive markets that are set up to reap rewards based on this.
Old 10-31-2010 at 12:19 PM   #11
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Well I'm thinking of this concept I read in Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. That society was under a maximum effort for societal conditioning. Oddly enough, they have banned anything to do with nature, flowers, nature's beauty. Why? Maybe because people will stop running the rat race and wake up and smell the (free) coffee so to speak.

As for the second point, I would say that there is a portion of the population that is strictly interested in sex without all the fuss that goes into dating and spending money on things that don't directly correlate to the end goal. However, since these are the rituals in place, they simultaneously drive markets that are set up to reap rewards based on this.
Ah, I was actually JUST trying to remember the name of that book earlier today, so thanks for that. XD

As far as your second paragraph goes, you're basically saying that the government is knowingly and purposely controlling the market. Some people believe we have an innate right to vote, I believe we have an innate right to a free market with no constraints. People should be outraged and rioting.

I understand what you're saying and it's a good point, but if it's true, there needs to be way more rage.
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Old 10-31-2010 at 01:04 PM   #12
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Because sex isn't a service.
You don't pay to be loved, do you? And if the sex has nothing to do with love, that's an effect of Westernization—degrad ation of human rights and value.
Old 10-31-2010 at 01:15 PM   #13
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You obviously don't know what it's like to have to sell your body just so that you can put food on the table so your kids don't starve. Or having to sell your body because everyone and everything in your life has damaged you in some way; it becomes a way to survive.

Human beings shouldn't be bought or sold, prostitution (including escort services, etc.) are evidence for how cruel society and humanity is to each other... it isn't black and white and [deleted by moderator] for even considering so.

Sad ****ing cliches aside, anyone who thinks prostitution should be legal (e.g. condoned) is heartless. Sure there are women who do it by choice for X ****ed up reason, but the rest are desperate and in need of help.

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Old 10-31-2010 at 01:19 PM   #14
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And this is where the morality garbage comes into it.

People will do desperate things in desperate times. It just so happens that society deems the desperate act to be prostitution. It's all subjective.

Regardless, the discussion is about two consenting people who just want sex for the pleasure of it. If somebody is okay paying for it, and somebody is okay being paid for it, who's to decide that it's illegal?

On an unrelated note, let's try to have a grown-up discussion without personal attacks. I realize this is the internet, but surely university students with holier-than-thou attitudes can cut the insults and feel superior in a less immature way.
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