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Old 08-20-2008 at 02:19 PM   #1
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DC++ Off Campus
So i lived in Rez first year, and now i'm moving off campus for second year, i'm just wondering is there any computer genius out there who has figured out a way to get DC++ off campus. Maybe by going though a friends computer who lives on campus? I know the speeds won't quite be as good as if i was on campus but non the less it'll still help out.

Thanks for the Help,
Jason
Old 08-20-2008 at 02:41 PM   #2
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You can just use the public DC++ hubs available in the world. A simple google search will give you all you need and then some.
Old 08-20-2008 at 02:48 PM   #3
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Well technically you can use the program DC++ from anywhere - what you're asking is whether or not you can connect to the private McMaster hub from outside the McMaster network. The answer to that is - not likely. While it is theoretically possible, as far as I understand it'd have to be set up specifically to allow that kind of access, and even then you'd likely run into problems getting through the firewall that Mac has around its internal network. For similar reasons, using Remote Desktop-like tricks would probably not work, either.

But again, you can connect to other public or private hubs with DC++ so long as you know the address of them (or you can consult a hub list like this one: http://www.dchublist.com/). Some of them are good, some are bad, and some have very specific types of files on them. Sadly, once you are outside the hallowed walls of residence, you'll never have as good a DC++ experience as you did inside them - speeds will be nowhere near the same. Sorry :p

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Old 08-20-2008 at 10:02 PM   #4
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You can still download the Mac-based DC++ stuff through the libraries, student centre, etc... as long as you can get a direct line into the Mac internet system (aka get an internet cord and connect it from the wall to your laptop) and you're good I did it all the time when I wasn't in my room.
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Old 08-21-2008 at 04:17 AM   #5
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You can still download the Mac-based DC++ stuff through the libraries, student centre, etc... as long as you can get a direct line into the Mac internet system (aka get an internet cord and connect it from the wall to your laptop) and you're good I did it all the time when I wasn't in my room.
WOAH! seriously? So I was in rez last year and naturally I had DC++. But I'm off-campus this year and thought I'd have to use bittorent or something like that. So you're saying I can just bring my laptop and ethernet cord, plug it into the library, and use DC++ the same way I would if I were in rez?
Old 08-21-2008 at 06:07 AM   #6
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no i don't think that's how it works(i believe the DC++ we know is located on a rez only server), i think he just means that their are public hubs all over the world that you go DL off of; however they are much slower (i've been getting up to 50ish Kbs).
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The connection speed is bottlenecked by your service provider. When you were in resience you basically had a direct connection to the hub, now your service provider gets between the two of you.

I've gotten speeds as high as 1.5Mbps. It all depends on a lot of diferent things.
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WOAH! seriously? So I was in rez last year and naturally I had DC++. But I'm off-campus this year and thought I'd have to use bittorent or something like that. So you're saying I can just bring my laptop and ethernet cord, plug it into the library, and use DC++ the same way I would if I were in rez?
Yeppers, I did it all the time.. I dont remember if it was the same speed, but it was the same stuff
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Old 08-21-2008 at 06:53 PM   #9
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hold on so you can connect from it in the Lib? do you just enter in all the hub info?
Old 08-21-2008 at 08:45 PM   #10
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I did it at the Student Centre I think... 2nd floor, there's plugs there, where the couches are, where you can overlook the elevators on the side closer to Mills. As for the hub info and stuff.. I honestly don't remember.
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Old 08-23-2008 at 07:29 PM   #11
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Unfortunately you cannot access the university hub outside campus. I feel your pain :(. Maybe you can find some buddy to mooch off, that's my frikkin plan.
Old 11-02-2008 at 01:34 AM   #12
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If that's the case, I wonder if VPN'ing would allow you access to the dc++ server... It won't be as fast as local speeds, but mac has a very decent upload rate.
Old 11-02-2008 at 05:38 PM   #13
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One Mac student set up a public DC++ network for off-campus use, especially after the Brandon Fire occurred. It's a bit small now but they're hoping it will grow. For the students who have DC++ on-campus, just add this hub to your favourite list and set it to "Auto-Connect" so whoever is off campus can benefit from your files as well as the users on campus.

The address is:

r3hub.dyndns.org
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In the past both the wired network and reznet were connected together, and only wireless was on a seperate network. As the case is now, and last year as well, the networks are seperate, and you are ONLY able to connect to dc++ through a residence jack.

In Mary Keyes for example, the common rooms are based on a different network as well, i havent tested other residences, but i would assume those common rooms are also on seperate network. From what i can tell, only bedrooms are on the 130.113 ip range.

MacHuB for DC++ is based on the following ip subnet, if your not in that range, no mac dc++ for you.
NetRange: 130.113.0.0 - 130.113.255.255

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Old 11-24-2008 at 10:42 PM   #15
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I would like to offer a hypothetical solution to those off-campus. I'm in first-year engineering living on-campus but I also have previous experience in amateur radio and know of someone who has implemented something along these lines. (Not at Mac)

I hope that this doesn't sound TOO techy for this forum but I think it would be an interesting read for many.

I'm not suggesting anyone do this. This should be considered as a fun "wouldn't it be cool if.." post. I mean this for informational purposes only as I'm sure this violates the McMaster network agreement in more ways than one.
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We know that access to the segment which the DC++ hub (and all of it's peers) is restricted to those connected by wire only within res rooms. Unfortunately library and wifi segments are routed on different subnets.

Does that mean that access is denied to those not on res? It doesn't have to.

What you (would) need:
- A 5GHz Wireless Bridge (others would work too, though more expensive)
For example -> Ebay Link
--That one's $500, you probably could find this hardware used/in parts for far less (I've heard it being done for $100). It would be a hunt though.


If properly set up, this is essentially a link or 'bridge' that operates in the microwave spectrum (wont cook food) that usually requires a direct line of sight for point to point communication. Some adjacent office buildings will use this if they have a sister building that needs fast and cheap access without going out to the internet. Usually it compares favourably to lying a new hard wire after everything has been built.

Depending on how close you lived to campus this could possibly work. Low-end bridges can't do more than 4km while the super-duper-New York-to-Queens-high-roller ones can do up to 15km (Burlington?)

Setting up the bridge on the off-campus end would probably be no problem. Your house. Your rules. But then on the other side..

You would have to have a REALLY good friend living in a building that:
A) You have a somewhat direct line of sight to. This is flexible..you just might get lower speeds. Windows are ok.
B) Doesn't mind violating network regulations and risking losing their account, etc.
C) Will let you spend a Sunday monkeying around with a high-frequency antenna that they will have to live with for the year because they like you so much.


And lastly to connect it on both ends you would need

- Any additional home router
For example -> Futureshop Link
--This one's $50 new. Some people (especially of the tech persuasion) have extra wired-only routers lying around from back when it was trendy enough to have high-speed internet, but wacko to try out wireless. You can get these for nothing used.

This would be for both ends. MAC-cloning (not a student but an address imprinted into your network adapter) I suspect would have to be enabled on the router. I could be wrong on this.


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There's my network engineering solution to all those in DC withdrawal. This has been done very cheaply as I've heard of a guy and his friend set this up in their neighbourhood to play XBOX systemlink with basically no latency. They say it was just as if the other was sitting right there. Speeds can be up to 54Mbps (5x res) under optimal conditions so if a link like this were to be created it would be as if you're in the same room and just as if you're still in first year pirating to your heart's content.


Once again I am not suggesting that anyone attempt this as I'm posting this just to share what I came up with.


I feel for the off-campus people as next year I will leave this wonderful world of limitless P2P behind next year.

Enjoy.



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