Didn't take Physics in HS.. Will I survive?
12-13-2011 at 04:28 PM
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Didn't take Physics in HS.. Will I survive?
If I've never taken physics will I be screwed in the LifeSci program? Or is there an equivalent course available for first years?
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12-13-2011 at 04:33 PM
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There is a Physics 1L03 course that you can take. It pretty much covers the same material as Gr. 12 Physics. However, there are Level 2 programs that require the Physics 1B03 course as a pre-req. So, you can take the 1L03 course as an elective 1st semes and take the 1B03 course 2nd semes.
Hope that helps!
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12-13-2011 at 04:34 PM
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I'm pretty sure Physics 1L03 is the course for people without grade 12 physics. And depending on which program you major in, it seems like it's the only physics class you'll ever need to take. Someone in science verify this claim.
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12-13-2011 at 04:37 PM
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If I've never taken physics will I be screwed in the LifeSci program? Or is there an equivalent course available for first years?
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Physics 1L03, but you'll be spending 500ish dollars to take the course (It also takes up an elective spot) depending on what program you want to enter in second year you may also have to do Physics 1B03.
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12-13-2011 at 05:00 PM
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Physics 1L03, but you'll be spending 500ish dollars to take the course (It also takes up an elective spot) depending on what program you want to enter in second year you may also have to do Physics 1B03.
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Agreed.
Most programs allow you to complete physics 1B03 the year you enter the level II program (the only exception I can think of is probably the physics program itself). I've heard people take the Grade 12 physics in the summer so they don't waste a course in Physics 1L03 and you can instead take Physics 1B03 which is generally more useful in terms of completing prerequisites for level II programs. |
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12-13-2011 at 09:18 PM
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The original post was asking about Life Science. For Life Science, you do not need to worry about physics. If you didn't take physics in high school, just take Physics 1L03, and avoid classes with a Physics 1A03 or greater prerequisite. All you need for Physics 1L03 is grade 12 math. If you didn't take grade 12 math, you'll need to take MATH 1K03, which requires grade 11 math, which you needed to graduate high school. Honours life science doesn't require physics, but for the most part, if you missed a class in high school, there's a class here you can take to make up for that.
So there's no problem! If you don't have high school physics, you'll need Physics 1L03 for any other Physics classes, but for life science, you won't be wasting your money because you only need Physics 1L03. The information can be found at the following web site:
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12-13-2011 at 09:59 PM
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I never took physics in highschool before! In my first year, I took Physics 1L03 first term and then I took Physics 1B03 second term.
It's doable! and you can do it 
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12-13-2011 at 10:40 PM
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if physics is not your strongest subject and you want to come into Life Sci program, I suggest that you expose yourself to it in HS rather in UNI.
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12-14-2011 at 03:52 PM
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Thank you so much for the quick responses! They're really helpful, I appreciate it!!! I'm going to try to squeeze in Physics this year to save me the burden. Thanks again.
Oh also, did you find Calculus helped you in your courses first year, or was it unnecessary to take in high school? (lifesci students)
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12-14-2011 at 05:10 PM
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take calculus. math 1a03/math 1ls3 is a prereq for many courses here and you need gr 12 calc to take those.
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12-14-2011 at 05:28 PM
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Honestly, you'll be fine. I came out of highschool with no physics background and when I tried to take the beginner physics (L03) it was full. So I basically went straight into advanced physics without any prior preparation. It was a struggle but I got through and with decent marks. If I could do that, I'm sure you'll have no problem coping. They take you slowly through the beginner material in all courses, its just the learning curve that really changes between easy courses and more advanced ones
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12-15-2011 at 11:12 AM
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Oh also, did you find Calculus helped you in your courses first year, or was it unnecessary to take in high school? (lifesci students)
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There's quite a bit of overlap in the first term math course students normally take (Math 1A03/1LS3) and grade 12 calculus in terms of differential calculus. You also learn integration, which is like the other half of differential calculus so the transition isn't bad.
The first-year calculus courses might come in handy for physics (I took 1B03 and I remember using integrals for a test question) and chemistry (kinetics, where again you use integration).
So all in all, it's a good idea to keep up with math in high school. |
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12-16-2011 at 01:55 AM
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if you're in life sci i recommend taking ls3 and lt3, students in those courses seemed to have an easier time in math than those in a03 and aa3. and yet the two sets are apparently equivalent.
as for calculus, for b03 hughes prefers to teach students to use integration to determine their kinetics equations rather than having them memorize a page and a half of derivable equations.
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