Originally Posted by ViktorVaughn

I rented my own place the last 2 years of school. I had a bachelor apt for $590/month and a 1 bedroom for $650/month. Both included heat and water, but no electricity. These were in west Hamilton, but they get a bit cheaper downtown or in crappier buildings, if you're feeling... adventurous.

sounds pretty good, do you get 8-month leases for it?

Originally Posted by ViktorVaughn

Before it was deleted, uh some short rant about you being too scared to confront your roommates the same way you're too scared to confront him about something offensive you said to him.. or something like that (i think in some reference to another post?). Colourfully worded it was

and [email protected] trying to troll an internet forum

Originally Posted by ReDorkulateD

sounds pretty good, do you get 8-month leases for it?

and [email protected] trying to troll an internet forum

They were 12 months, you might have a tougher time finding 8 month agreements. However, many will let you sublet if you desire.

Well that didn't work.. stupid invisible posts.

Reminded me of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bsXRqI1WbI

Originally Posted by ViktorVaughn

They were 12 months, you might have a tougher time finding 8 month agreements. However, many will let you sublet if you desire.

o ok, thx

/12char

Originally Posted by ReDorkulateD

For the past few years I've been at Mac, I haven't lived in a decent house where there weren't annoying housemates or neighbours who blasted music until 2-4am even on school nights. I've usually used ear-plugs but they aren't effective at all against bass and usually I'm up until the music stops because of it. Does anybody else have this problem and what do you do to sleep?

Growing up as an only child, I never realized how quiet my house was until I moved into one with four other girls. I had an awful time trying to get to sleep in my second year, but finally started to get used to it by third year. Some of it I realized after actually wasn't me: my housemates were being inconsiderate, but that's beside the point.

I find that if I drink chamomile tea, it knocks me out within about 20 minutes. So I do that now if I'm having trouble sleeping. And I often have trouble sleeping...I have insomnia issues.

Living by yourself can help, as mentioned. But it also depends on your neighbours. If you have loud ones it's not really much better. I rented a basement apt in Westdale last year for $575/month plus internet and phone (everything else was included, but I opted to not buy cable).

I love drinking chamomile or some warm milk (with a little chocolate...not too sweet). It helps tons. You also can't be too stuffed, and can't be hungry either. I know you usually feel sleepy after eating a big meal, but try not to go to sleep. You'll feel awful.

Usually, the best way for me to fall asleep is wake till I get really exhausted (till around 1:30am~2:00am), probably by listening to music or just surfing (I wouldn't recommend doing work 'cuz you're not gonna take anything in). However, I feel like crap when I wake up i the morning.

I realized (or rather re-witnessed) that you feel a lot better if you go to sleep early (10:00pm~11:00pm), and wake up early. You'll initially be a *lot* hungrier during the day though, but it's not a big deal if you have the time to eat often.

Originally Posted by lorend

Growing up as an only child, I never realized how quiet my house was until I moved into one with four other girls. I had an awful time trying to get to sleep in my second year, but finally started to get used to it by third year. Some of it I realized after actually wasn't me: my housemates were being inconsiderate, but that's beside the point.

I find that if I drink chamomile tea, it knocks me out within about 20 minutes. So I do that now if I'm having trouble sleeping. And I often have trouble sleeping...I have insomnia issues.

Living by yourself can help, as mentioned. But it also depends on your neighbours. If you have loud ones it's not really much better. I rented a basement apt in Westdale last year for $575/month plus internet and phone (everything else was included, but I opted to not buy cable).

think i'll try the tea, thanks! and ive also been thinking about getting a really loud fan that might drown out the sound

Originally Posted by ReDorkulateD

think i'll try the tea, thanks! and ive also been thinking about getting a really loud fan that might drown out the sound

I use white noise too.

About the tea: I find I'm not a big fan of the taste, so you may want to add some honey.

Originally Posted by lorend

I use white noise too.

About the tea: I find I'm not a big fan of the taste, so you may want to add some honey.

do you use a white noise machine or speakers?

Originally Posted by ReDorkulateD

do you use a white noise machine or speakers?

Nope. Just some music on low, or a fan.

They have white noise machines now?

Originally Posted by lorend

Nope. Just some music on low, or a fan.

They have white noise machines now?

lol yah, weird machines that make a fan-noise for 50 bucks-i think i might just go with a 20 dollar fan