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Old 08-22-2011 at 10:46 AM   #1
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lab before core
Would you recommend having a lab before a core? As in, a chem core right after the chem lab?
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it does not matter, the lab will be on the material learned a week or two weeks before (depending if you are an odd number lab or an even number lab, you wont know which one starts first until first week of school)

but yeah, no it does not matter, labs do not use information from material being learned in that week, it uses material from previous weeks or actually brand new information that you must have looked at using the lab manual and prelab questions.

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It really doesn't make much of a difference. You might be a little late to your lecture if your lab is in ABB and your lecture is in MDCL, but generally the first 5 minutes of a lecture aren't all that important.

The walk from ABB to BSB isn't as far, but you'll still probably be a tiny bit late if your lab takes the whole period (a lot of them do).
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It really doesn't make much of a difference. You might be a little late to your lecture if your lab is in ABB and your lecture is in MDCL, but generally the first 5 minutes of a lecture aren't all that important.

The walk from ABB to BSB isn't as far, but you'll still probably be a tiny bit late if your lab takes the whole period (a lot of them do).

Great point, I forgot to talk about being late. Well there is only 5 labs a term, so you will be late to class a max of 5 times a term, that is not too bad. I had physics 1B03 core right after chem lab in my first year and I was late 5 times for physics but honestly considering the number of classes, being late 5 times is nothing.
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Thanks. Also, who would you recommend as a chem prof? This year, both Emslie and Dumont are teaching chem 1a03. I know this is a subjective question, but any advice would be great
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Thanks. Also, who would you recommend as a chem prof? This year, both Emslie and Dumont are teaching chem 1a03. I know this is a subjective question, but any advice would be great
I second this question
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i cant say for sure about those two profs. but what i can say from experience is stay the heck away from laundry. guys a douche :| always too quick thru his slides, speaks in a condescending tone...inno maybe thats just in my exp. but like you said this is a subjective questionlol
also if you get a prof from germany. for the life of me i cant remember his name. but he has a heavy (funny) german accent...HE IS THE BEST CHEM PROF i have ever had
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OH the German prof is Stover. by far the best prof ever. i hate chem, and he made it fun and interesting!
(i had him for chem 1aa3 tho)
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I had Dr. Landry for chem 1A03 and I had no problems with him at all. He did skip some slides or work through them fast, but honestly the stuff he skipped was not important. I really don't know where you're getting the condescending tone from either :p If you knew chemistry from high-school then almost the entire class was review, so I had no problems with the pacing of the lectures.

I had Dr. Stover for chem 1AA3 and he definitely tries to engage everyone and make chemistry as fun as possible. Sadly he had to teach the 8:30am core, and it's pretty hard to motivate anyone at 8:30 in the morning...
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It really doesn't make much of a difference. You might be a little late to your lecture if your lab is in ABB and your lecture is in MDCL, but generally the first 5 minutes of a lecture aren't all that important.

The walk from ABB to BSB isn't as far, but you'll still probably be a tiny bit late if your lab takes the whole period (a lot of them do).
First-year chem labs are only 2.5 hours long, even though they show up as 3 hours on the schedule...so you should never be late for a class you have immediately after. The slots on the timetable for chem labs are 8:30-11:20, 11:30-2:20 and 2:30-5:20, but they definitely need more than 10mins to restock and clean up between sections, and get the next group set up and ready to go...so instead of ending on the :20, they end on the hour so that there's enough time to set up the next group. Students aren't generally permitted to stay late for this reason. Sometimes the 2:30 lab groups can get away with it, but they're generally not supposed to since it's not fair for those kids to get extra time that the other sections can't have.
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First-year chem labs are only 2.5 hours long, even though they show up as 3 hours on the schedule...so you should never be late for a class you have immediately after. The slots on the timetable for chem labs are 8:30-11:20, 11:30-2:20 and 2:30-5:20, but they definitely need more than 10mins to restock and clean up between sections, and get the next group set up and ready to go...so instead of ending on the :20, they end on the hour so that there's enough time to set up the next group. Students aren't generally permitted to stay late for this reason. Sometimes the 2:30 lab groups can get away with it, but they're generally not supposed to since it's not fair for those kids to get extra time that the other sections can't have.
I had 2:30 lab sections for Chem 1A03/1AA3/2OA3/2OB3. I remember in first year they'd really push you to finish your lab stuff by the hour, but it didn't always happen. There were a lot of times when people would be writing their reports until -:20+ . In Orgo, there were *always* people in the lab until 25 past.

Just my personal experience =)
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I had 2:30 lab sections for Chem 1A03/1AA3/2OA3/2OB3. I remember in first year they'd really push you to finish your lab stuff by the hour, but it didn't always happen. There were a lot of times when people would be writing their reports until -:20+ . In Orgo, there were *always* people in the lab until 25 past.

Just my personal experience =)
Orgo labs are actually 3 hours, I believe...they're organized completely separate from 1A03/1AA3 labs, though.

For 1A03/1AA3 it depends on your TA, but TAs are told not to let kids go past the hour...I TA'd the course last year, and Jeff was pretty strict about this, because he didn't want to give one group an advantage over the others.
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Im strongly against that... labs make you tired and put you into a "i dont care i just want to get out of here" mood, and you dont want to be going into lecture with that, you won't get the most you could out of lecture that way
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