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		I'm doing this in response to a request for a review of  Math 1B03. I gave it a perfect score, but for reasons to be explained in this review...This course leads to higher level algebra courses:
  
-> Math 2R03 (Linear Algebra II), 
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			07-28-2010 at 10:53 AM
			
						
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				how does this schedule look like? 
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			07-28-2010 at 11:59 PM
			
						
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				Looks like a pretty normal schedule. 
			
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 is it fine to take calculus and vectors 2gether in the 2nd term? 
i took MCV4U0 in High school, is  math 1b03 something like the vectors that we learned in high school? O__O =3=  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				is it fine to take calculus and vectors 2gether in the 2nd term? 
i took MCV4U0 in High school, is math 1b03 something like the vectors that we learned in high school? O__O =3= 
			
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			07-29-2010 at 02:18 PM
			
						
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				is it fine to take calculus and vectors 2gether in the 2nd term? 
i took MCV4U0 in High school, is math 1b03 something like the vectors that we learned in high school? O__O =3= 
			
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 You do use the vectors section from highschool.  In fact, you'll use ideas about vectors (sets of vectors, actually) to define a vector space in a sort of slapdash fashion, which is a very important idea in higher mathematics as a whole.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
  
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				how does this schedule look like? 
bio1a03 
chem1a03 
psych1a03 
econ1b03 
math1a03 
  
bio1m03 
chem1aa3 
math1b03 
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 thats almost the exact same schedule i had, except i had econ 1bb3 (i didnt take  1b03) in second term and  math 1b03 in first term... overall i didnt find it too challenging, despite people thinking i was crazy for taking 3 maths
 
i thought it would be easier for me to take  math 1a03 and  1b03 together in 1st term (opposed to  1b03 and 1aa3 in the same term), and turns out there was some slight overlap with  math 1b03 in physics  1b03 and  math 1aa3  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Concepts from math 1B03 should help you understand the little multivariable calculus bit at the end of 1AA3 - for example, instead of the fuzzy idea of a function of 'n variables', you can think of it as working with a function of a vector of n varying components.  This clears up a lot when you think about the 'first-principles' definition of a derivative in more than one variable (you don't cover that in 1AA3, but it helps you actually understand a bit of what you're doing) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
  
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				This clears up a lot when you think about the 'first-principles' definition of a derivative in more than one variable (you don't cover that in 1AA3, but it helps you actually understand a bit of what you're doing) 
			
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 Actually you do (or at least you should) cover first principles definitions...it's the only way to 'understand' what a partial derivative is (and why if you're differentiating with respect to x, all of the y's are regarded as constants).
  
It makes the concept come alive when you can think of partial derivatives as 'slicing' your surfaces using planes, and performing calculus in the 'single variable' sense on the pieces.
  
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				Actually you do (or at least you should) cover first principles definitions...it's the only way to 'understand' what a partial derivative is (and why if you're differentiating with respect to x, all of the y's are regarded as constants). 
			
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 Haha, maybe I just wasn't in class for that bit, then. I definitely agree about the importance of the idea of picturing the tangent plane - it really motivates the algebra...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
						  
				
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		 can anyone give an updated review of this course? im thinking of taking it next semester 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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 It's full, isn't it?  I'm thinking taking it, 2..  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 Is there an online component to this course, similar to the Mastering Chemistry assignments? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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 There was when I took it.  The assignments were online, done through WileyPlus - same with 2R03.  From what I remember, the Mastering Chemistry stuff wasn't graded (since I've never been on the site), but the assignments for 1B are graded.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
  
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				There was when I took it.  The assignments were online, done through WileyPlus - same with 2R03.  From what I remember, the Mastering Chemistry stuff wasn't graded (since I've never been on the site), but the assignments for 1B are graded. 
			
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 Oh darnnn, that means I'll have to purchase the textbook and package. Seems kind of expensive, but if it's for marks I guess I'll have to do it. Thanks a lot   .  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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		 does anyone know whether i need to get buy the new textbook for the wileyplus? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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