I know there's already a bunch of orgo in the summer type threads open but I haven't found one addressing this question yet. I understand that taking an LOP course means it won't be on your GPA, but I already took Physics 1B03/1BB3 as an LOP during first year summer.

Is it better to do it at Mac even though it'll add to my GPA? Do grad schools have a limit on how many LOP courses can be taken?

I'm just asking because I'd rather stay at home and take it at York but for some reason everyone does it at Mac?

Originally Posted by Christ

I know there's already a bunch of orgo in the summer type threads open but I haven't found one addressing this question yet. I understand that taking an LOP course means it won't be on your GPA, but I already took Physics 1B03/1BB3 as an LOP during first year summer.

Is it better to do it at Mac even though it'll add to my GPA? Do grad schools have a limit on how many LOP courses can be taken?

I'm just asking because I'd rather stay at home and take it at York but for some reason everyone does it at Mac?

It won't be in your McMaster GPA, but if you apply to grad schools they will count the marks towards your admissions average.

I think some people do it at Mac because it's logistically easier, and if you're planning on taking further orgo courses, taking the first two at Mac ensures that you won't miss anything. Logistics is probably the big thing though, for many people it's just easier and more convenient.

Oh so if I take orgo at York, even though it'll be considered pass or fail, grad schools will still look at the mark and consider that?

Does it matter that after taking orgo, this would be my 4th LOP course since I've already done physics?

The OP named himself christ.... lmfao wow

Originally Posted by Christ

Oh so if I take orgo at York, even though it'll be considered pass or fail, grad schools will still look at the mark and consider that?

Does it matter that after taking orgo, this would be my 4th LOP course since I've already done physics?

There might be a limit to the number of non-Mac courses that can be used for credit towards your degree. Check the course calendar or ask an academic advisor.

I took the orgo at York. The course was run very poorly at York in the summer, don't do it!. If it was me, I would do it at mac. At least here, you get some sort of proper notes and well run labs. The prof I had was still using a chalkboard. Just save yourself the trouble and do it at mac.

If you don't mind me asking, who was your prof at York Ardougne? I haven't heard the best things about Harrison who's teaching the course at Mac soo..

I also have heard Paul Harrison makes unfair tests. Can anyone comment on this?

Originally Posted by Chipmunk

I also have heard Paul Harrison makes unfair tests. Can anyone comment on this?

After taking his class first term, I can confirm that his tests are absolutely horrifying. The class avg is in the 50s, and I honestly doubt he can even do his own questions. The questions are SO random, that you can do better by not studying and just google " organic chem questions" online. Not recommended at all if you care about your GPA (since you are a hth sci lol ) However, I did end up with a double digit, since the labs could boost your marks up!

I've had Harrison before and his tests were completely fair...

lol how can you say tests are unfair when you get 10+ in the course and when 70% of your mark is from tests.

Originally Posted by Silver

lol how can you say tests are unfair when you get 10+ in the course and when 70% of your mark is from tests.

because I got 12s on all my other classes except this one. The class avg however is in the 50s for the exam and that is a fact since it is posted on Avenue. I studied really hard for his exam since it was my last exam and still got bad on it.

Originally Posted by gggggg

because I got 12s on all my other classes except this one. The class avg however is in the 50s for the exam and that is a fact since it is posted on Avenue. I studied really hard for his exam since it was my last exam and still got bad on it.

gettings 12s in another class isnt a reason for tests in another class being unfair. how did you do bad on the tests in this course if you got 10+ anyways? and it doesnt matter if you studied hard. you can still not get 12. LOL. class avg being in the 50s isnt bad anyways since this would make the class average in the mid-high 60s which is fine.

Lol way to take responsibility.

@ the OP...take the time to form your own opinions. It's fine to ask for others' opinions, but don't take them as fact.

gggggg clearly blames Harrison because they didn't get a 12 in the course.
I liked Harrison as a prof and found his tests fair.

If you take the course with him, you could have a good experience, a bad one, or somewhere in the middle

Originally Posted by Christ

Oh so if I take orgo at York, even though it'll be considered pass or fail, grad schools will still look at the mark and consider that?

Does it matter that after taking orgo, this would be my 4th LOP course since I've already done physics?

Although courses taken outside of Mac count as pass/ fail, grad schools will still look at the mark. You have to submit transcripts from all the schools you've attended.

I highly doubt that taking 4 LOP courses has any consequences.