09-03-2009 at 08:47 AM
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If there is a strike, and there are picketers picketing the university entrances, how is this going to effect residence move in on Saturday/Sunday?
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If a strike is called it will not start tomorrow so there will be no effect on move-in weekend.
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09-03-2009 at 08:48 AM
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There won't be a 5-minute rule if I encounter a picket. They can't do anything forceful to stop you, and if they lay one finger on you, they've broken the law.
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And if you drive over the people blocking your way you're breaking the law...or worse.
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09-03-2009 at 09:01 AM
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How about if you're walking or biking?
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09-03-2009 at 09:09 AM
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my friend who will be going on strike f it happens - was told that every entrance will be blocked - there are 2,200 people that will be striking which is enough to barricade every entrance.
how would it be to walk through the picket line??
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09-03-2009 at 09:10 AM
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How about if you're walking or biking?
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The pickets won't affect you at all. Just cut through a parking lot or between buildings. No one will say anything to you or any of the students if you choose to do that. Heck, even if you walk through the entrance sidewalks you wil not be bothered, at most you might be handed a flier. If you bike on the sidewalk just be careful not to hit someone and you'll be fine.
Oh, and to clear another misunderstanding - the buses will not cross the picket lines not because the picketeers won't let them but because the bus drivers are also unionized and that's their way to show support.
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09-03-2009 at 09:19 AM
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Gets it? Not a chance.
Raising awareness towards whom? It's not as if the students of the University are making the decision. It is the University administration and they already know of the issue and have made their stance.
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Raising awareness toward their cause, brother! Workers picket for the same reason people protest: to get the general public to stop, think about the situation and hopefully be motivated to act!
We may not be making the decision, but we definitely can speak up about it! We are the university's loyal customers and if enough customers complain about a corporate policy, changes happen!
And right now, changes damn well better be happening. They think they can raise our tuition every single year without cutting a bigger piece of the pie for everyone else!
This is an issue over worker benefits that must be addressed. Throwing out the pension clause for new hires is unacceptable in a world where retirement can be 20+ years and seniors have to start working again to pay the heating bills and food costs.
We as paying students should be outraged, not at the unions, but at the school for continuing this backward behaviour! The unions are trying to make us stop and think, and hopefully support their cause.
So take 5 minutes out of your day and listen to what they have to say at the picket lines and then call on YOUR school to do the right thing.
None of us are powerless, none of us have no say. Speak up for justice!
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09-03-2009 at 09:31 AM
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my friend who will be going on strike f it happens - was told that every entrance will be blocked - there are 2,200 people that will be striking which is enough to barricade every entrance.
how would it be to walk through the picket line??
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I'm friends with some people in this union and they said the picketers will probably not say anything to students. They will stop all cars, like normal, but if you're a student walking through to go to class, it's unlikely they will say anything to you.
If they do, just put your headphones on and keep walking.
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09-03-2009 at 09:57 AM
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How would this entrance blocking affect the Go Bus entrance to campus behind Mary Keyes?
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09-03-2009 at 10:39 AM
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Since the HSR employees are not in a legal position to disrupt their routes, would they be sanctioned for essentially not doing their jobs?
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No, I don't think so. They are doing their job, just taking a detour...
(like they would if a road is closed for construction or such... ;-) )
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09-03-2009 at 10:42 AM
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Raising awareness toward their cause, brother! Workers picket for the same reason people protest: to get the general public to stop, think about the situation and hopefully be motivated to act!
We may not be making the decision, but we definitely can speak up about it! We are the university's loyal customers and if enough customers complain about a corporate policy, changes happen!
And right now, changes damn well better be happening. They think they can raise our tuition every single year without cutting a bigger piece of the pie for everyone else!
This is an issue over worker benefits that must be addressed. Throwing out the pension clause for new hires is unacceptable in a world where retirement can be 20+ years and seniors have to start working again to pay the heating bills and food costs.
We as paying students should be outraged, not at the unions, but at the school for continuing this backward behaviour! The unions are trying to make us stop and think, and hopefully support their cause.
So take 5 minutes out of your day and listen to what they have to say at the picket lines and then call on YOUR school to do the right thing.
None of us are powerless, none of us have no say. Speak up for justice!
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Waiting for a meaningful argument there, Hoffa...
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09-03-2009 at 10:45 AM
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(like they would if a road is closed for construction or such... ;-) )
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The road however isn't closed. Were they to be denied entrance to the university it would be, but since you've pointed out as an employee that they wouldn't stopped, they're perfectly capable of going onto the campus. So, should the routes be detoured I'd imagine that a number of students will be calling to complain to the HSR. There are over 13 000 of us, so that does have some impact on the way the company does things.
Edit: I should point out that I can feel where the current employees are coming from on the actual issues. Holding thousands of students hostage however, I disagree with. Hopefully the employees will be smart and allow the HSR to pass, as they have done in the past during other labour disputes.
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09-03-2009 at 10:51 AM
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The road however isn't closed. Were they to be denied entrance to the university it would be, but since you've pointed out as an employee that they wouldn't stopped, they're perfectly capable of going onto the campus. So, should the routes be detoured I'd imagine that a number of students will be calling to complain to the HSR. There are over 13 000 of us, so that does have some impact on the way the company does things.
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Yes, I would think that a number of students will complain to HSR but I have no idea on the HSR agrement with their union so I don't know how HSR will handle this issue.
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09-03-2009 at 10:57 AM
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Yes, I would think that a number of students will complain to HSR but I have no idea on the HSR agrement with their union so I don't know how HSR will handle this issue.
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Well it would depend on this. But as I mentioned, in the past the employees have realized that annoying and making late students is not the way to win their support and have taken steps to ensure that these things don't happen. Hopefully this will continue in the event of a disruption, allowing the students to continue to show support for the striking workers.
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