I'm not sure that post really connected with anything... You've just said that the Liberals balanced the budget because the Conservatives created a GST tax... Something they stand against today... Today they're all about cutting taxes and spending dollars.

Also, since this thread was brought back up, I've also noticed something very funny about the Conservatives which, at the core, proves their hypocritical nature:

Conservatives --> Right Wing ---> Hard-core Christian roots ---> ? ? ? <----- Criminals are criminals, no second chances, long-term jail sentences, and lets go to war

Not to make fun of ONLY Conservatives here, because this is really the core hypocritical nature of right-wing politics... How do those two GO TOGETHER!? Christianity: The religion based on forgiveness, and the right-wing parties are also the most hard-core for "tough on crime".

Notice that I haven't made any alternative suggestions here, so I'm not saying that all criminals should be forgiven and set free. I'm just pointing out how backwards and confusing that is.

Harper- Evil devious ( my first impression when I saw his face before I knew his political affiliation)
Ignatief- A push over. Doesn't look like a leader
Jack Layton- Looks like he'd be a kickass face of Canada. But NDP will never get voted in.
may- WTF? parliament is not a kitchen
Duceppe- %^&$%^$&#$&&$#%^#&&#^ #%&#^#.

Sums up my opinion in a humorous way.

Conservatives --> Right Wing ---> Hard-core Christian roots ---> ? ? ? <----- Criminals are criminals, no second chances, long-term jail sentences, and lets go to war

Not to make fun of ONLY Conservatives here, because this is really the core hypocritical nature of right-wing politics... How do those two GO TOGETHER!? Christianity: The religion based on forgiveness, and the right-wing parties are also the most hard-core for "tough on crime".

Keep thinking about it and your mind will explode.

Originally Posted by mike_302

I'm not sure that post really connected with anything... You've just said that the Liberals balanced the budget because the Conservatives created a GST tax... Something they stand against today... Today they're all about cutting taxes and spending dollars.

Also, since this thread was brought back up, I've also noticed something very funny about the Conservatives which, at the core, proves their hypocritical nature:

Conservatives --> Right Wing ---> Hard-core Christian roots ---> ? ? ? <----- Criminals are criminals, no second chances, long-term jail sentences, and lets go to war

Not to make fun of ONLY Conservatives here, because this is really the core hypocritical nature of right-wing politics... How do those two GO TOGETHER!? Christianity: The religion based on forgiveness, and the right-wing parties are also the most hard-core for "tough on crime".

Notice that I haven't made any alternative suggestions here, so I'm not saying that all criminals should be forgiven and set free. I'm just pointing out how backwards and confusing that is.

I understand that, I was just using it to support the idea of cooperation in politics and to reinforce the ideas already presented on Scandinavian countries. If they had have came together to work together, there would have been a more sustainable surplus. And as for your little diagram thing, right-wing thinking doesn't necessarily have to be based off of "hard-core Christian roots". Republicanism (in the American sense) would be better suited for the right representation instead of Conservative, considering Harper has refused to provide any legislation on abortion (if he was "hard-core Christian, he would make it illegal in an instant). To associate the Conservative Party of Canada with the radical right is pretty crazy, considering the Republicans are even more radical. John Stewart put it best when he compared the Canadian Conservatives to the "U.S.' Gay Nadar Fans for Peace." Obviously not to that extreme, but Conservatives are much, much less radical to the right than they appear to be.

They're not radical... And like I said: This isn't specifically about hte Conservatives, but the whole concept of the right-wing means Christian values, and tough-on-crime simultaneously. As for Harper and abortion, he'd outlaw that $hit in a second if he didn't think he'd be instantly voted out, and frankly, he would... Poop would hit the fan SO HARD if that debate was brought back up: Notice how it was recently brought up in the campaigns, and Harper had to do some serious repair work to mend the situation and get people's minds off the tough subject.

No, see, he won't ever outlaw abortion because it would cause too much stink really fast. Instead, as hinted by more recent dirt which came up, but got swept under the rug by the news and voters, an MP from out in Saskatchewan was caught on tape thanking a Pro-Life group for campaigning to cut funding for Pro-Choice groups across Canada. Harper's repair work to this was to say "Woah woah... A choice has not been made yet on that funding... LOOK OVER THERE! A SQUIRREL! {read: more tearing into the NDP}". Voters and the media said: Oh... Okay. He hasn't done anything yet so we'll ignore this news and not bother reading into the obvious.

Also, another rant: When will politicians be required to take a qualifying math-test? Harper keeps going on about how the other parties will just be the bad guys and defeat his next budget in the event of a minorty, and that's why people should vote for him: The other guys are mean and don't do what he says. Who else needs a math lesson? The party that wins a MINORITY government (less than 40% of the vote) is actually the party that MOST CANADIANS DIDN'T vote for. So his speech about how no coalition should be allowed to take over if he wins a minorty: Bull$hit. Do the math... If two parties, representing the majority of elected MP's, can get along to form a coalition, it means a government will form which can compromise on the ideas and values of the MAJORITY of Canadians.

Sorry, I must have missed that part about not exclusively being Conservatives. My bad. But to say that only Harper would do that is a bit of a stretch. No politician in their right minds would touch that issue because, as I said before, they're all in it for themselves. They just want the power without the responsibility that goes along with it. Canada is in desperate need of another Trudeau (no, not his son), because we haven't had a good, strong leader since him.

None of them would willingly touch it... And normally a fend-off / change of subject would be expected equally from every party... But I thought it was outrageous that the media and voters were so easily fooled by his response to that audio-recording that was released about the campaigning to end Pro-Choice group funding... He's SECRETLY working out plans to end funding for groups that don't have Conservative values, and then distracting us when we start to catch on to what he's doing.

I picked up on that little bit of scandelous news about the audio-recording, and immediately thought: Uh oh! He's got some explaining to do about this back-room finance cutting, especially regarding such a sensitive subject!... But no: He very quickly turned all voters heads in the other direction. For those still looking at him, rather than the direction Harper told us to look instead, good on you.

Originally Posted by thedog123123

may- WTF? parliament is not a kitchen

You're in third year and still find these kinds of "jokes" humorous?

Just like to mention that your post is exactly what a lot of voters think/rely on when they cast their vote, focusing on who "looks like a leader" rather than their platforms, past performance, reliability, experience etc..

Originally Posted by KN1991

You're in third year and still find these kinds of "jokes" humorous?

Just like to mention that your post is exactly what a lot of voters think/rely on when they cast their vote, focusing on who "looks like a leader" rather than their platforms, past performance, reliability, experience etc..

Women being in kitchen joke has nothing do with age Secondly welcome to the internet where these jokes are the norm.

Lastly it is very important to not only vote for the platform but for the leader. The leader is the one who represents canada's image. Platforms are generally lies to get a voter to vote for them, past performance is not always important and no one has experience as a PM until they are a PM.

All this hate on Harper is just gonna bite all of you in the ass. Just sayin', Harper supporters are now going to be more willing than ever to vote and whether or not Harper wins, it'll be another minority government. Yet again.

EDIT: Or perhaps majority? http://www.ctv.ca/mini/election2011/...ker/index.html

http://www.google.com/hostednews/can...?docId=6663774

Called it... Weeks ago. But no matter: this will get ignored by the public too. It's not like Canada's budget, and the government's ability to foresee price hikes matters... What matters is who "looks" like a leader.

I don't think it takes that much brain power to see that,
a) when the U.S. says their will be a massive price hike over what they originally thought, then there will be a major price hike.
b) When the plane has not even been built, nobody knows the true cost of maintenance (but from life experiences, what you forecast is ALWAYS less than what it is)

Surprise! Canada's on track to buy >60 of these planes, and if the Conservatives get their way, it won't matter what cost it goes up to! As long as we buy this one. Why? Every other country ready for war is... Therefore, it must be the best choice!

http://www.ottawacitizen.com /healt...933/story.html

^ What the Conservatives would do with a majority. This is the most horrifying article I've ever read. And the items it lists on Stephen Harper's list are not simply Liberal-propoganda: He's already started doing them to the furthest extent he could manage with a Minority (reappointing the Senate to create a right-wing Senate), and he's made some of these items his major campaign points: Cutting funding for parties from the elections. Some would call this paranoia, but no one ever said Harper was unintelligent: He's systematically destroying his opposition so that he's protected in power and he will be difficult to dethrone because he has so many right-wing friends in power surrounding him.

Scary. As. #$%^

http://news.nationalpost.com /2011/...ew-poll-finds/

WHAT ARE LIBERALS AND GREENS WAITING FOR ???

Yes NDP will take care of your families and the environment. Don't let the conservatives win. DNP is second nationally, NDP needs more votes in Ontario.

Most liberals vote Liberal because of the name. They feel "liberal". But it should be about fixing the economy. Trust me, I've spoken to most liberal supporters and when I ask them "Why Liberal ?" They gave me reasons to which Ignatieff doesn't stand for.

It's time for a new Canada.

It's easy :

Want your money to go to corporations ? Vote Conservative

Want Canadian Troops to die in Afghanistan ? Vote Conservative or Liberal

Want a leader who doesn't attend Parliament votes and when he does, he votes for Harper's policies ? Vote Liberal.
Want the economy to get better, families to be saved, more doctors, and get our troops home ? Vote NDP.

I know there are more issues. But we should fix the big ones fist (Saving the lives of our troops and stop your tax dollars being wasted).

@Icecream, I like the NDP's platform better than the Liberal's but in my riding it is not likely that the NDP will win (it got around 10% of votes last time) . The Liberal candidate won the last election by only 0.3% votes more than the Conservative candidate. Though I want to vote NDP, I don't want to risk having a Conservative win in my riding.

Originally Posted by Icecream

It's time for a new Canada.

It's easy :

Want your money to go to corporations ? Vote Conservative

Your money isn't going to corporations. They get to keep more of the profits they earned. Why do you deserve the profits off of someone elses ideas?

Originally Posted by Giygas

Your money isn't going to corporations. They get to keep more of the profits they earned. Why do you deserve the profits off of someone elses ideas?

It was the Canadian middle and lower classes who suffered the most from the recession not the richest 1% and ceo's. And Harper wants to give them a tax cut.