Hey I'm attending Mac next fall and I ADORED my Gr. 12 Law class and I'm looking for a first year class I can take that is in the same vein.

I've been looking around but I haven't found anything close to what I'm looking for...Does anyone have any suggestions?

PHILOS 2B03 Philosophy of Law and Society is the closest to what you're looking for. I loved this class when I took it.

Obviously it is more concerned with the philosophy of law and it focuses on legal and moral issues in society. You won't find a class at Mac that actually studies law until your upper years.

I think that's actually PHILOS 1B03. 2B03 is called something like Introductory Logic.

Originally Posted by feonateresa

I think that's actually PHILOS 1B03. 2B03 is called something like Introductory Logic.

Oops sorry that's what I meant And yeah, 2B03 is Logic (aka death)

Thanks guys, I'll definately look into the Philosophy Course.


Just wondering,
What do you think of Poli Sci (if you've taken it)? Or what's its reputation (if you havn't)?

To be honest, if you're really intent on going to law I think you may heading to the wrong school. Poli sci is pretty much the closest you'll get but we do have some awesome philosophy courses. However, I agree with Callen (logic is evil and you should never take it. You may think you're logical but you may learn otherwise). Philosophy wise I would recommend 1B03, 2G03, 3Q03, and we have a new 4th year class known as Constitutional Law which I'm personally super pumped about! Usually if you're interested in Law poli sci and philosophy are the way to go. I personally prefer Philosophy but I'm pretty biased, haha! We have some pretty kick-ass professors in our department

You do NOT need a Criminology background to go into law. There are MANY kinds of law (corporate, environmental, Indigenous to name three) and they don't require any pre-law classes. I know three people who are in law school that took zero criminology courses.

If you're interested in maybe going to law school, read this article: http://www.macinsiders.com/showthread.php?t=2025 8. It is about how to get to law school with a degree from Mac.

She hasn't mentioned going into law so lets all chill about what you need to get in.

I'm going into my third year of poli sci and I like it. The first year class is very basic and dry but if you check out the upper year courses available they are pretty interesting. Mac offers poli sci courses in all the different specializations (international relations, international political economic, political theory, canadian politics, etc) so once you get through first year you can start exploring your interests in the different fields.

What I did like about first year political science were the profs. I had Nyers and Alway for 1G06 and I really liked them both which made the material more bearable. If you're interesting in going into poli sci I would recommend taking the two intro econ classes along with labour studies to help form a basis for what you'll study in upper years.

I find the political science department to be pretty strong at Mac. Many of the profs are world renowed researchers who edit journals, are research chairs, and are involved in many different types of advocacy. The ones I've had experience with have been really dedicated to teaching as well and have been eager to share their knowledge if you show interest.

Don't get too concerned with reputation. Since Mac tends to be a science focused school you'll hear some snarky comments about poli sci and the arts in general. Honestly though, its an undergraduate degree in social sciences, reputation does not matter at all.

Let me know if you have any other questions

Originally Posted by lorend

You do NOT need a Criminology background to go into law. There are MANY kinds of law (corporate, environmental, Indigenous to name three) and they don't require any pre-law classes. I know three people who are in law school that took zero criminology courses.

If you're interested in maybe going to law school, read this article: http://www.macinsiders.com/showthread.php?t=2025 8. It is about how to get to law school with a degree from Mac.

Is there anyhing you dont know? Thanks Lorend

Originally Posted by callender

She hasn't mentioned going into law so lets all chill about what you need to get in.

I'm going into my third year of poli sci and I like it. The first year class is very basic and dry but if you check out the upper year courses available they are pretty interesting. Mac offers poli sci courses in all the different specializations (international relations, international political economic, political theory, canadian politics, etc) so once you get through first year you can start exploring your interests in the different fields.

What I did like about first year political science were the profs. I had Nyers and Alway for 1G06 and I really liked them both which made the material more bearable. If you're interesting in going into poli sci I would recommend taking the two intro econ classes along with labour studies to help form a basis for what you'll study in upper years.

I find the political science department to be pretty strong at Mac. Many of the profs are world renowed researchers who edit journals, are research chairs, and are involved in many different types of advocacy. The ones I've had experience with have been really dedicated to teaching as well and have been eager to share their knowledge if you show interest.

Don't get too concerned with reputation. Since Mac tends to be a science focused school you'll hear some snarky comments about poli sci and the arts in general. Honestly though, its an undergraduate degree in social sciences, reputation does not matter at all.

Let me know if you have any other questions

Great tip!

I'm in poli sci as well (3rd year). What stream are you into?

Wow! I really wasn't expecting this much of a response, thanks for all the info

I'm going into first year Commerce in the fall and I'm debating law-school. It really depends on how much I enjoy post-secondary education in general, since it's a much more substantial investment time and money wise.

But I love law as a subject and I'm definately going to take both Poli Sci and Phylo classes for my electives. Thanks for helping me figure out which ones to take, I was so confused before

As far as reputation, I wasn't so much concerned with what criticism people had for the non-healthscience courses, but the actual courses rep as far as how hard it was, how the teachers are, etc.

With that said, any teachers I should avoid?

When it comes to poli sci, the selection for first year profs is minimal...I had Dr. Leone last year, and he was alright. The classes were cut and dry and really disorganized (almost no TA/Prof interaction) and there was a lot of reading from slides and the text. Some people really like that style, I personally don't.

It really depends on your learning style and which prof caters to it.

Originally Posted by Goce

Is there anyhing you dont know? Thanks Lorend

Yes:

• higher-level math
• higher-level chem
• higher-level physics
• anything that sort of cross-lists those kinds of classes: biochem, astrophys etc