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7.0 Ya'an Earthquake Relief Fund-Raising Event

 
Old 04-24-2013 at 01:41 PM   #1
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7.0 Ya'an Earthquake Relief Fund-Raising Event
8:02 AM, April 20th, a massive earthquake (magnitude 7.0) has stricken Ya-an, Sichuan China. Over 15,000 death and injuries have been reported up until now.

McMaster Chinese Students and Scholars Association proposed the Ya’an earthquake relief fund-raising event together with One-foundation, an official and experienced philanthropic organization specialized in disaster relief and rescue missions, from Apr. 22 to Apr. 30, 2013 in Mills Library Lobby.

Please donate to help the people who are still suffering in Ya'an. Please just get involved and get all your friends involved. we appreciate your help!

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Old 04-24-2013 at 03:08 PM   #2
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Not to sound out of touch, but i didnt even know there was an earthquake.

Looked it up - apparently one also struck afghanistan(+flooding ) and papua new guinea recently

ps. you really shouldnt have worded it '15,000 death and injuries' .. misleading (to me at least)
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Old 04-24-2013 at 03:29 PM   #3
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7.0 Ya'an Earthquake Relief Fund-Raising Event
8:02 AM, April 20th, a massive earthquake (magnitude 7.0) has stricken Ya-an, Sichuan China. Over 15,000 death and injuries have been reported up until now.

McMaster Chinese Students and Scholars Association proposed the Ya’an earthquake relief fund-raising event together with One-foundation, an official and experienced philanthropic organization specialized in disaster relief and rescue missions, from Apr. 22 to Apr. 30, 2013 in Mills Library Lobby.

Please donate to help the people who are still suffering in Ya'an. Please just get involved and get all your friends involved. we appreciate your help!
So... How do donations work in a communist society exactly? What makes you think they won't be lost on the way with all the bureaucracy? What makes you think Chinese government will use the money as intended and not to sponsor something else, like I don't know, feeding the army?

What if you don't get enough money to make a suitable donation (knowing you will lose 90% of it before it gets to the target)? Will you return the money? What if the value is so small, there' no point to go through the hassle of returning that nothing back to donators, will you spend the money yourself? Jeez, if you just want to buy new shoes, you should just say so.

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Old 04-24-2013 at 03:30 PM   #4
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So... How do donations work in a communist society exactly? What makes you think they won't be lost on the way with all the bureaucracy? What makes you think Chinese government will use the money as intended and not to sponsor something else, like I don't know, feeding the army?
You could say that about any government, communist or not.

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You could say that about any government, communist or not.
I know, I tried telling those people in the parliament to not send money to Haiti, but they won't respond to my letters. Maybe they didn't like the pizza rolls.

Oh, and the difference is that in communist government every donation will go thru the government first (international donation at least), while in capitalist you can donate directly, which makes it easier to get away with theft. Why do you think all those fake cancer charities frauds are happening now?

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So... How do donations work in a communist society exactly? What makes you think they won't be lost on the way with all the bureaucracy? What makes you think Chinese government will use the money as intended and not to sponsor something else, like I don't know, feeding the army?

What if you don't get enough money to make a suitable donation (knowing you will lose 90% of it before it gets to the target)? Will you return the money? What if the value is so small, there' no point to go through the hassle of returning that nothing back to donators, will you spend the money yourself? Jeez, if you just want to buy new shoes, you should just say so.
im almost positive u quoted the wrong person
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im almost positive u quoted the wrong person
Hey! You are right, thank you brothah!
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Hey! You are right, thank you brothah!
reread my name and try again
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Similar thing happened at the same place in 2008, and majority of death and injuries were due to inferior building materials (hollow bricks, fake cement etc).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichuan... ption_scandal

The donations back then were supposedly dedicated to build proper sturdy buildings to resist earthquakes of similar magnitude.

MrPlinkett's skeptisms were justified, there were SEVER misuses of the donation,

"Hong Kongers were especially miffed after learning early last year that a Sichuan secondary school built in 2010 with HK$2 million in quake relief funds was later torn down to make way for a luxury housing development."
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/hong-kon...ries-1.1251425

The lawmaker from the article summarized it nicely, "What China lacks is not money but rather clean government."
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exactly, the chinese government is rich, but the people are not
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its not like we don't want to help people in need but donating money is just like funding communism.
hope people in China finally stand up to fight communist government. Who can help them if they don't even want to help themselves
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So... How do donations work in a communist society exactly? What makes you think they won't be lost on the way with all the bureaucracy? What makes you think Chinese government will use the money as intended and not to sponsor something else, like I don't know, feeding the army?

What if you don't get enough money to make a suitable donation (knowing you will lose 90% of it before it gets to the target)? Will you return the money? What if the value is so small, there' no point to go through the hassle of returning that nothing back to donators, will you spend the money yourself? Jeez, if you just want to buy new shoes, you should just say so.
Mr. Plinkett, I also have a few questions of mine for you. Have you been to China? Do you know how the communist party works? Do you have evidence of any sort proving that 90% of the money to disaster relief will be lost on its way? Do you think the politicians there are so money hungry and inhumane that they would witness people dying, suffering in pain, and being homeless and without food just to pocket those few precious dollars? I believe the answer to all of those questions are no.

Therefore, I am simply in complete shock, for the capacity of ignorance, and the lack of maturity for a university student such as yourself and the other commenters. The club is simply trying to raise donations in doing their part to save innocent lives. While you, sitting here, spoiled by the environment that you grew up in, have the audacity to say these donations shouldn't take place. If we switched the scenario, and that Hamilton had a massive earthquake. You are now without food or water, injured, bleeding, your friends and families are dying or dead, and you're just praying for someone, anyone, to give you some form of help. Just at this time, students in China are organizing a fund relief. And myself, being one of those students, simply say, "oh those socialist bastards, always discriminant and ignorant towards the poorer countries. they can just go help themselves. why should I donate, 95% of it will probably go to the HST anyways." how do you think you will feel being the victim in this issue?

The boston marathon only had a few people killed, compared to thousands in this earthquake. What if I said that people hurt in the marathon don't need help, because I hate the U.S. government, and they should just be left to die?

In short, please don't drag politics into humanity relief. You do not have to donate, but please don't post this hurtful, unjustified nonsense to mislead other students. I really hope you will see one day how offensive and completely mindless your post is one day.

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ps. you really shouldnt have worded it '15,000 death and injuries' .. misleading (to me at least)
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The boston marathon only had a few people killed, compared to thousands in this earthquake. What if I said that people hurt in the marathon don't need help, because I hate the U.S. government, and they should just be left to die?

In short, please don't drag politics into humanity relief. You do not have to donate, but please don't post this hurtful, unjustified nonsense to mislead other students. I really hope you will see one day how offensive and completely mindless your post is one day.
it was 200 .
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it's an earthquake, not a bombing, the numbers will obviously increase. and yes you're right, only 200 dead (for now), 15,000 injured, countless more homeless and suffering. Who cares right? the 3 ppl are boston marathon are much more important.

you obviously completely missed the point of my post.
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it's an earthquake, not a bombing, the numbers will obviously increase. and yes you're right, only 200 dead (for now), 15,000 injured, countless more homeless and suffering. Who cares right? the 3 ppl are boston marathon are much more important.

you obviously completely missed the point of my post.
not really.. im just choosing to stay out of the political argument it has become.. was just stating a more correct figure

i do know (some) math and i do realize that 3<200<"15,000"
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