Originally Posted by wangv2

Mr. Plinkett, I also have a few questions of mine for you. Have you been to China? Do you know how the communist party works? Do you have evidence of any sort proving that 90% of the money to disaster relief will be lost on its way? Do you think the politicians there are so money hungry and inhumane that they would witness people dying, suffering in pain, and being homeless and without food just to pocket those few precious dollars? I believe the answer to all of those questions are no.

Therefore, I am simply in complete shock, for the capacity of ignorance, and the lack of maturity for a university student such as yourself and the other commenters. The club is simply trying to raise donations in doing their part to save innocent lives. While you, sitting here, spoiled by the environment that you grew up in, have the audacity to say these donations shouldn't take place. If we switched the scenario, and that Hamilton had a massive earthquake. You are now without food or water, injured, bleeding, your friends and families are dying or dead, and you're just praying for someone, anyone, to give you some form of help. Just at this time, students in China are organizing a fund relief. And myself, being one of those students, simply say, "oh those socialist bastards, always discriminant and ignorant towards the poorer countries. they can just go help themselves. why should I donate, 95% of it will probably go to the HST anyways." how do you think you will feel being the victim in this issue?

The boston marathon only had a few people killed, compared to thousands in this earthquake. What if I said that people hurt in the marathon don't need help, because I hate the U.S. government, and they should just be left to die?


In short, please don't drag politics into humanity relief. You do not have to donate, but please don't post this hurtful, unjustified nonsense to mislead other students. I really hope you will see one day how offensive and completely mindless your post is one day.

If Hamilton had an earthquake, US would send supplies while Canada would send the troops in order to prevent looting as well as help medically.... then in 2 weeks hippie students mainly from North America would try to collect money, the little money they would collect be lost on the way to the target, and whatever money would get to the target, would probably sponsor the "non profit" organizations in the area. And don't think they would spend all the money to help people, especially with all the chaos around, it's really hard to tack all the logistics....

Try reading my original post out loud, and try to realize that I didn't mix politics, I'm just saying the money will get lost on the way, whether you like it or not.

Who cares right? the 3 ppl are boston marathon are much more important.

I really couldn't care less about either event. For you see, Chechen separatist generals that used to create death squads to bomb Russian civilians, are now living in the west. One of them is living openly in London, and is supported by the Queen. Terrorists for some, are freedom fighters for others, it really doesn't make sense to take sides.

MrPlinkett
As a former executive of MacCSSA, I have to say that you have no idea how much you hurt our feelings by saying these thing.
We had countless of hours dedicated into this event. Our executives stayed up until 5:00 in the morning just to get all the promotion stuff ready. Volunteers stayed at our booth even they had an exam that afternoon. Our marketing department tried to reach every single sponsors we have to ask them if they wanna donate. How could you just sit behind your screen, saying such horrible things when you know nothing about us, about the work we did. I am just completely in shock. Imagine if you were in our place and saw a posting like this.....
Could you just please stand in our place and think about this? We are international students, we are so far from home, from China, we are not able to do anything to help those suffered except raising some donation for them. We are not an professional charities, we don't even know what supplied those people need, donation is the fasted and simplest way to actually do something for our country. And here we are, asking all the students in Mac please help us. It is not necessary that you help us, we understand that there were these things about China that you don't like. We are just asking you, please do not hurt and disrespect our hard work dedicated into this, do not hurt and disrespect our passion and determination to help the people of our kind!
And just FYI, we certainly can afford our new shoes without any kind of donation.

I am not criticizing Chinese people or anyone else. Yeah, people died, it sucks. People in need are being helped by the Chinese army. They are provided with food and medical attention by the troops, like they are supposed to in a distress situation.

I am criticizing the whole collecting money thing. Okay, so you collected money. How do you know all of it got to the desired people? How do you know whatever they got in the desired place is being used as you would like and not for something else?

It's like they say, if you want to change something, start with yourself. If you really want to help, go to China and help. Like what are you going to lose? A few weeks of school? Those people lost much more. By trying to make it look like you actually care by doing all this charity crap, you are being nothing more but a loud mouth hippie.

"will you spend the money yourself? Jeez, if you just want to buy new shoes, you should just say so."

This is what you said!

You really DO think we have never considered about that? MacCSSA has been the biggest Chinese club for almost 30 years here at Mac with over 1000 members, you do think the management team would hold a fund raising event without any background research?

We announced the amount of donation each day, and a public summarization will be held under the supervision of all donors. All the money will be transferred to One-foundation, which is mentioned in the first posting. If you did any research into One-foundation, the official charity established by Jet Li, you wouldn't post your first posting. At least, do some google research please.

This is what I mean by " you hurt our feeling without even knowing what we did"

Okay. So you donate money. Then it go directly to the people right? What do they need dollars for? Or will the money go through the official bank? What is percent fee that the bank gets for doing the transaction? Will it be private bank or governmental bank? Knowing it's a government bank, will the government be able to fluctuate the tax rate in order to maximize its profit from the transaction?

I mean, have you thought about any of those questions besides just putting money in a bucket and sending it somewhere?

To reply your question, I think there are whole bunch people out there are willing to pay off tax and the transaction fee if it is needed, so don't try to judge us without any sense of what is going on.
And refer what you said before, people like us should not get involve in the rescue process at this time, now is for the professional team to organize what they should do step by step, not rush to there blindly.
What else is, the set up of donation is not really because we are so lack of money, is just we want to show the support and the care far from our country. That' s all.
What all you said really hurts people, so please stop.

Will you donate if i answer all these questions? And yes, we had answers to all your questions, which have all been considered before we plan this event.
Before you ask anymore questions, please do some research, google some news, and show some respect!

Please stop using your word hurting people, especially the hard-working executives? Would you please just stand in our position and just think about even one second, are those the appropriate things to say??
At least, that DOES hurt me!

Originally Posted by beth920404

Will you donate if i answer all these questions? And yes, we had answers to all your questions, which have all been considered before we plan this event.
Before you ask anymore questions, please do some research, google some news, and show some respect!

Saying you have answers don't always mean you actually have them.

And no, I am not going to donate. There are 300 people in South Asia that are dead due to factory collapse. If anything they need more help.

"If you really want to help, go to China and help. Like what are you going to lose? A few weeks of school? Those people lost much more. By trying to make it look like you actually care by doing all this charity crap, you are being nothing more but a loud mouth hippie."

We are just students, we should do the appropriate things. Rushing into the disaster areas, are we going to create more chaos? are we going to block the way into these areas? Do we have any expertise in rescue mission? If we get into trouble, more resources are wasted on us...
Think before you say anything Mister!This is getting seriously hurting!

Jeez, if you don't like Chinese, just say so!

Okay, the answers are here if you insist:
One-foundation opened a paypal account just for foreign currency donation.
All Chinese government banks have cancelled transaction fees for any earthquake relief funds.

I like Chinese, but when it's not too spicey.

We are just students, we should do the appropriate things. Rushing into the disaster areas, are we going to create more chaos? are we going to block the way into these areas? Do we have any expertise in rescue mission? If we get into trouble, more resources are wasted on us...
Think before you say anything Mister!This is getting seriously hurting!

It's been almost a week after the quake, the logistics of the operation is all set up now. Plus you don't need to be in the middle of the tragedy, you can help in the camps outside the town.

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You don't know about us. You don't know the work we did. You don't know China. You don't know the current circumstances there. So stop judging, please!

"And trust me, it doesn't hurt you more than Attack of the Clones hurts me."

Thank you for admitting your racial preference!