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So scared what do i do... BT23 Academics 11 07-02-2009 03:45 AM

Calculus For The Scared – Part One

 
Old 08-23-2009 at 03:41 PM   #45
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Agreeed! I wish all parents did that for their kids at a younf age. I can never thank my parents enough for that, I'm actually kinda scared they won't be around next year
hahaha ya parents are great...I mean if you have great parents that is and they will always be there...maybe not to help you with work but they will be there.


...especially when your mom is cooking amazing food during ramadan
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Old 08-23-2009 at 03:53 PM   #46
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Definitely! It's gonna be so weird not having them right there when you need them, you know :(.

Haha, I know, I can't wait - 3 hours left!! But how dare you speak of food =O !
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Old 08-23-2009 at 04:00 PM   #47
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mmmm kafta hehe...and ya I'm glad I stayed in Hamilton I get to stay home however I guess res has its own advantages...a lot of ppl told my parents I was crazy to go into Life Sci at Mac instead of Health Sci at Western (mostly because Life Sci is supposed to be very heavy on the workload and Health Sci isn't) buuuut I donno London is far
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Old 08-23-2009 at 04:04 PM   #48
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Ahh, no talk of food >.<. I heard about Health Sci In UWO, but I don't know, Hamilton seemed more appealing , and a LOT closer! And of course their courses aren't as varied as Mac's. Like Calculus for example, you have to take a full year there, but here, only a half-year and it's specifically for Life Sci. Stuff like that made Mac definitely worth coming to .
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Ya also UWO is a relatively big school...I don't like being around too many other students 20,000 is enough right? and plus my closest friends are going to Mac and even though Hamilton is not the greatest city for entertainment its not too bad. Movies are good once in a while, pooling is fun sometimes and anyways its not like I'm going to be chilling that much during school. I've got enough courses to keep me busy haha...but never let yourself burn out gotta take some easy time for yourself.
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* Watches as Mowicz constructs a spaceship out of math, tears a hole in the universe and flys away to another universe where Pi equals exactly 3 *
Just adding a little onto this: Legislature for trying to change Pi to 3.

Scroll to #5:

http://www.cracked.com/article_16896...ic-method.html

As well:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/...ng-pi-equals-3
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Old 08-24-2009 at 12:41 AM   #51
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LOL thats just stupid really...btw i've never researched this but I heard pi has infinite decimal places (as far as our technology can compute)...I've never researched this but its very interesting.
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LOL thats just stupid really...btw i've never researched this but I heard pi has infinite decimal places (as far as our technology can compute)...I've never researched this but its very interesting.
Yep, it's an irrational number. They actually have contests to memorize pi to as many decimal places as possible.

There's also pi day, I wish we celebrated that in McMaster. They celebrate it in waterloo with pie and ice cream.

Of course on March 14th at 1:59 XD
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Haha why whats special about March 14 1:59
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Haha why whats special about March 14 1:59
It's pi XD

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LOL haha good one...now the question is 1:59 a.m. or p.m....I guess logically it would be a.m. and p.m. could also be 13:59
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LOL haha good one...now the question is 1:59 a.m. or p.m....I guess logically it would be a.m. and p.m. could also be 13:59
I believe they do it in the afternoon for convenience sake.
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(as far as our technology can compute)
TT definitely 'goes on forever'...but it's more than this. 1/3 = 0.33333.... also goes on forever. TT on the other hand, goes on forever in a seemingly random fashion. There is no repeatable pattern to the digits of TT.

This means TT is 'irrational.' But this isn't a mathematical definition...an irrational number means it can't be expressed as a fraction. 1/3, even though it 'goes on forever' is infact a rational number.

There are several proofs that TT is irrational...I don't know any that aren't a proof by contradiction...That is, suppose TT is not irrational, so TT = a / b, for some integers a and b, and then show there's some problems.

The simplest proof is to note that sin(TT) = 0...so sin(a/b) = 0.

Technical details follow, and you get an inequality that doesn't make sense. So you conclude that TT is not a/b for any integers a,b (ie. it's not rational).



So all that aside, it basically means no matter how good our technology gets, we'll never know all the digits of pi. Even if we leave a computer on, 24/7 calculating it for trillions of years.
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TT definitely 'goes on forever'...but it's more than this. 1/3 = 0.33333.... also goes on forever. TT on the other hand, goes on forever in a seemingly random fashion. There is no repeatable pattern to the digits of TT.

This means TT is 'irrational.' But this isn't a mathematical definition...an irrational number means it can't be expressed as a fraction. 1/3, even though it 'goes on forever' is infact a rational number.

There are several proofs that TT is irrational...I don't know any that aren't a proof by contradiction...That is, suppose TT is not irrational, so TT = a / b, for some integers a and b, and then show there's some problems.

The simplest proof is to note that sin(TT) = 0...so sin(a/b) = 0.

Technical details follow, and you get an inequality that doesn't make sense. So you conclude that TT is not a/b for any integers a,b (ie. it's not rational).

Oh and why would we even care after say 100 decimal points? At that point those decimal points don't even influence our calculations, well barely influence our calculations.



So all that aside, it basically means no matter how good our technology gets, we'll never know all the digits of pi. Even if we leave a computer on, 24/7 calculating it for trillions of years.
Details... lol just kidding. That's pretty cool to know.

I remember when I went to Waterloo on a field trip in grade 11 that the professor taught us that proof. The one that involves pi = a / b. Of course at that time everything just flew off the top of my head XD
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Haha, wow that's actually pretty cool. Let's do that next year
3.14 at 1:59, Nice !
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