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Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that from October 27th to the 31st you will be able to vote on which new email system should replace MUSS. In order to vote just go to NoMoreMailFail.com

Our options are Google Eduation Apps and Microsoft [email protected] There is information about each system is up on the website but I also attached the Info Cards about both systems.

There will also be a station set up in the Student center from Wednesday-Friday where you can try out the systems before you vote.

The universty plans on then launching the new system we choose in January.

Lastly one lucky voter will be randomly selected to win a iPad whichhas 16gb of storage....and MUSS had 15mb.

Storage limit aside, MUSS is perfectly fine in my opinion-- simple & clean. Why not just boost the storage limit (should it be possible, which I'm guessing it is) as opposed to pissing money away on an entirely new system?

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Originally Posted by giftedchick

i think u need to fix that link... take out the macinsiders part.. or else it lieads nowhere

I already fixed it

Originally Posted by eullwm

Storage limit aside, MUSS is perfectly fine in my opinion-- simple & clean. Why not just boost the storage limit (should it be possible, which I'm guessing it is) as opposed to pissing money away on an entirely new system?

I agree. MUSS is a perfectly fine system, it just needs more memory so it doesn't fill up as fast.

Nah, MUSS is ugly. This outdated 20th century email system needs to be replaced!

Originally Posted by eullwm

Storage limit aside, MUSS is perfectly fine in my opinion-- simple & clean. Why not just boost the storage limit (should it be possible, which I'm guessing it is) as opposed to pissing money away on an entirely new system?

That's not possible and inaccurate respectively. Firstly MUSS was built sometime in the 90's on ancient technology, Its infrastructure is far too old to randomly "boost" the storage limit. Having working knowledge of computer infrastructure, tbh I've never actually heard of anything being "boosted". Since networks are interconnected and complex its very different then "boosting" a PC with additional Ram.

Secondly no one is "pissing" away money on this change. Both Microsoft and Google are offering this service for free and the basic integration one time transfer costs(from muss to another system) are just a fraction of yearly costs to run MUSS. From the many universities we have researched, a University of a similar size to Mac can save anywhere from $500,000 to $1Mil+ per year by switching over to a Web Based Email.

Furthermore the future of computer networks according to most industry analysts is towards Cloud Computing and not inhouse physical models, this is just the first step towards the next generation.

As for the interface itself, I am unsure as to how you something like Gmail with its advanced tagging, Search, Filters and intuitive interface mechanisms is not a much more accessible service.

Added to that we obviously have cool features like Calendars(Which Clubs, Faculty Societies, MSU and so on can use to have subscribe-able event calendars that users can layer onto their personal one) and the ability to do group work with McMaster Students via the document collaboration/sharing features.

All in All the reason I started this project back in January 09 within the SRA was because I envisioned it to be a win-win mechanism for both students and UTS. Change is unsettling, but as a self proclaimed innovative university, this is exactly what we need. Universities all over North America are hopping onto the web based email bandwagon and choosing either Microsoft or Google. Even Ivy League schools like Darthmouth etc

Microsoft seems to win out in terms of feature due to its SkyDrive. Though, I would like Google to win since I'm so accustomed to their services.

Does the Microsoft School Email supports IMAP? Caused Hotmail does not while Gmail does. For those that like to use email on their smartphone, that is a very important feature.

For those that don't know, IMAP allows you to keep your email account up to date whenever you make any changes. If you delete X on your iPhone, X gets deleted off your actual account. No IMAP supports means if you delete X on your iPhone, X is still on your account and you have to login to delete it.

To be fair, the same functionality as SkyDrive is available through Google Docs- you can upload any sort of file (but the limit is just over 1GB, which is obviously much smaller).

Knowing about IMAP would definitely be useful, unfortunately I don't know if [email protected] supports it.

Gmail ftw. I know Microsoft is generally more appealing because they're a bit flashier but...(First comment on: ) http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/co..._youv e_made/

Originally Posted by Marlowe

To be fair, the same functionality as SkyDrive is available through Google Docs- you can upload any sort of file (but the limit is just over 1GB, which is obviously much smaller).

Knowing about IMAP would definitely be useful, unfortunately I don't know if [email protected] supports it.

1GB is still a lot unless you want to upload video. My textbook for Bioinformatics is 7MB. Most of my word documents are less than 25KB. My lectures range from 15MB (night courses, 1/week) to 500KB. So you can still fit a ridiculous amount of files.

Originally Posted by PHLN

Microsoft seems to win out in terms of feature due to its SkyDrive. Though, I would like Google to win since I'm so accustomed to their services.

Does the Microsoft School Email supports IMAP? Caused Hotmail does not while Gmail does. For those that like to use email on their smartphone, that is a very important feature.

For those that don't know, IMAP allows you to keep your email account up to date whenever you make any changes. If you delete X on your iPhone, X gets deleted off your actual account. No IMAP supports means if you delete X on your iPhone, X is still on your account and you have to login to delete it.

I'm conflicted about this as well, from a purely pragmatic standpoint, MS seems to have the better offering, but I REALLY like Google. Hmm... who do I vote for?

Does anyone remember when gmail and google didn't work on campus for hours on end, while it worked off campus? Do we really want to deal with the possibility of system that may not be accessible? I like gmail, but frankly I like the reliability of the current system when it comes to my academic emails.

Looking at the features it looks like Microsoft has the better option, but overall from my past experiences Google offers a better service overall ; \ hmm.

Gmail is far far better than Hotmail, no contest.

With MS you get sky drive, but Google Docs lets you upload files too. You get 3gigs less, but that's pretty negligible. No one is going to need that much, I'd think.

The big difference is Google Docs vs Web apps, where MS wins out. Google docs isn't bad at all, but I imagine web apps would be much better since its based off of office. That said, I don't know if it has any collaboration tools like Googles Docs does.

Either way, I think Google is the way. Docs is more than serviceable, and Gmail is awesome.

Though yes they'd need to figure out why Google keeps going down randomly on campus.