Originally Posted by RyanC

To say Obama is the lesser of two evils is a hugely false equivalence. Mitt Romney has flip-flopped on almost every single issue, had no definitive plan for for accounting for his proposed tax cuts, and has taken almost every tragedy over the election period to try to extract personal gain from. If it were Obama versus almost any other potential candidate, the 'lesser evil' banter can be arguably more true but... ah boy...

I sort of disagree.

Although Mitt Romney is certainly a repugnant human being, Obama is only slightly less dangerous.

For one thing, he's doubled down on all of Bush's civil liberties violations. He's continued to spy on his citizens and hold them indefinitely without trial or public presentation of evidence. His treatment of Bradley Manning has been appalling. He committed US forces to war in Libya without congressional approval despite the lack of an imminent threat to US security (sound like... oh, I dunno, Iraq much?). He is terrorizing innocent women and children in Pakistan with his drone war in North Waziristan, which has killed hundreds of innocents and made life a living hell for the survivors.

But worst of all, Obama has set a ridiculously dangerous precedent in passing a law that legalizes the extrajudicial killing of American citizens if so ordered by the president. Yes, he gave himself the power to kill his own people, no trial, no questions asked. This is extremely dangerous territory to be treading, and frankly it's embarrassing that people who (rightfully so) complained about Bush for 8 years can turn around and support Obama.

There were no good choices in this election, and could I have voted I would have voted third party.

Originally Posted by RyanC

To say Obama is the lesser of two evils is a hugely false equivalence. Mitt Romney has flip-flopped on almost every single issue, had no definitive plan for for accounting for his proposed tax cuts, and has taken almost every tragedy over the election period to try to extract personal gain from. If it were Obama versus almost any other potential candidate, the 'lesser evil' banter can be arguably more true but... ah boy...

First off, I said multiple evils... Haha, just kidding. But seriously, what I was getting at is that neither major candidate was suited for the job and will do everything they propose. Until the system is reworked, America is going to be stuck with two inadequate candidates to choose from. Thus, since Obama has a better track record and the experience, he's the lesser of two evils. Also, Romney just seems like a...word I probably shouldn't say on this forum.
That was my train of thought on this subject. Make of it what you will.

Originally Posted by Kudos

I sort of disagree.

Although Mitt Romney is certainly a repugnant human being, Obama is only slightly less dangerous.

For one thing, he's doubled down on all of Bush's civil liberties violations. He's continued to spy on his citizens and hold them indefinitely without trial or public presentation of evidence. His treatment of Bradley Manning has been appalling. He committed US forces to war in Libya without congressional approval despite the lack of an imminent threat to US security (sound like... oh, I dunno, Iraq much?). He is terrorizing innocent women and children in Pakistan with his drone war in North Waziristan, which has killed hundreds of innocents and made life a living hell for the survivors.

But worst of all, Obama has set a ridiculously dangerous precedent in passing a law that legalizes the extrajudicial killing of American citizens if so ordered by the president. Yes, he gave himself the power to kill his own people, no trial, no questions asked. This is extremely dangerous territory to be treading, and frankly it's embarrassing that people who (rightfully so) complained about Bush for 8 years can turn around and support Obama.

There were no good choices in this election, and could I have voted I would have voted third party.

While I agree with AUMF and targeted killings, I understand what you mean. I don't really know much about the drone situation, however.

This election was a joke...

I will simply point out that the majority of the rest of the world was in major support of Obama, according to many many polls. Had the world voted (let's assume that citizens from across the world would be voting for the benefit of themselves, and given that they are locationally spread out, their collective vote would benefit the world), Obama would have come out on top with a significant majority.

I can't believe Mitt was so close to winning...

Don't matter. The nation is divided again and Congress will be a gridlock again.

Cudos to Kudos. and to allan, congress is divided again and the nation will be gridlocked. thank jesus we live in canada!

when are americans gonna realize september 11th was an inside job....

Originally Posted by eddiemurphy

when are americans gonna realize september 11th was an inside job....

when they stop believing the moon landing actually happened.

Barack to the future!

To be honest, the republicans ran Mitt Romney the worst way possible. Mitt is not a hardcore right winger, he is a centrist. As his time as the Governor of Mass., he really brought both Democrats and Republicans to the bargaining table not polarized the Republicans like Barrack does. Barrack Obama, I am glad won the day but he lost the popular vote. Obama is really glad the electoral college system is in place otherwise we would be looking at a much different America today

Originally Posted by kyle.mccooey

To be honest, the republicans ran Mitt Romney the worst way possible. Mitt is not a hardcore right winger, he is a centrist. As his time as the Governor of Mass., he really brought both Democrats and Republicans to the bargaining table not polarized the Republicans like Barrack does. Barrack Obama, I am glad won the day but he lost the popular vote. Obama is really glad the electoral college system is in place otherwise we would be looking at a much different America today

Obama won the popular vote by 3%, or 3 million votes.

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Obama is also regarded as highly centrist himself.. he often starts half way between centre and the Republican's wants, and can be seen as incredibly more of a 'reacher across the aisle'.

It was an interesting election for sure

Why people care bout America's election so much

Originally Posted by haleyye

Why people care bout America's election so much

Because the political and economic decisions that will be made by the President and congress of the United States government WILL directly affect us here in Canada.

Originally Posted by DanHiggins

Because the political and economic decisions that will be made by the President and congress of the United States government WILL directly affect us here in Canada.

I think that user cared more about getting a 5 post count so they could post/access the marketplace.