Originally Posted by Commander

Yeah a bunch of ragheads who have nothing to do in life but to attack the most powerful milatiry orginization in history...

War on Terrorism is the BIGGEST Oxymoron ever. War is the ultimate form of terrorism. You cannot have a war on terror. For those who invade countries and impose a "democracy" are terrorists like those who blew themselves up in another country.

The problem with Israel is that most "Jews" who came to Israel aren't even pureblood. Palestinians who lived during 1940s were more semite than the immigrant jews who came to Plaestine buring the British Mandate. That's is one of the reason why the "justification" of Israel's existence is complete bullocks.

How would you feel if Eastern Asian Siberians came in Canada by the thousands, made an army, stole Canada from the Canadians and then native indians joined them. You will loose your place to live and the justification of the land being taken away would be :"Eastern Siberians share a common recent ancestor with Native Americans". Well, in Israel case, the Zionist also said that they were "Chosen people"...

Can't we forget the history and live like bros? :(

lol @ L'Étoile

Originally Posted by Afzal

Can't we forget the history and live like bros? :(

lol @ L'Étoile

we cant forget how they killed thousands of innocent people and get away with it and then they say that it was all for the better

I am not mad against jews but against the country isreal (Real terrorists)

It just keeps getting worse. About the Israel thing. I'm not sure who, but someone in the Egyptian government requested ammunition and tear gas canisters and such from the US. The US refused, so instead, Israel sends in 3 planes full... No comment.

Why cant I see 5th page?

Originally Posted by Commander

Btw, I can't be an anti-Semite because I am a Semite myself.

Funny. The use of the term 'anti-Semitism' is an accident of language. It's really meant to pertain specifically towards Jews, it's just that at the time when the term was coined in North America & Europe, they weren't particularly familiar with the other Semites, and figured that they may as well use a 'fancier' term. It was also done, in part, to distinguish between religious and ethnic discrimination - 'Jewishness' mixes religion and ethnicity rather closely.

So, that doesn't really hold any water.

Originally Posted by Mahratta

Funny. The use of the term 'anti-Semitism' is an accident of language. It's really meant to pertain specifically towards Jews, it's just that at the time when the term was coined in North America & Europe, they weren't particularly familiar with the other Semites, and figured that they may as well use a 'fancier' term. It was also done, in part, to distinguish between religious and ethnic discrimination - 'Jewishness' mixes religion and ethnicity rather closely.

So, that doesn't really hold any water.

I don't care what it was meant for. A Semite is a Semite.

It's like the word terrorism. Terrorism is Terrorism. There's one definition from it which can be derived from the roots of the word (Terror and suffix ism)

If people of North America and Western Europe weren't familiar with other Semites that it is their problem and they are ignorant for using a word that they don't understand.

The word "Semite" is mentioned in the English translation of the Bible quite a few times. Again you are wrong.

It's like a Vietnamese person the following : "Hey, Indian, you're a racist anti-Asian".

Of course... Indians are Asians too...

But it's just ignorant North Americans who associate "asians" with chinese/koreans/japanese just like associating Semites with only Jews..

And BTW, I am actually like ethnically a Jew.. (well like 1/2) but 100% Semite.

Originally Posted by ~*Sara*~

It just keeps getting worse. About the Israel thing. I'm not sure who, but someone in the Egyptian government requested ammunition and tear gas canisters and such from the US. The US refused, so instead, Israel sends in 3 planes full... No comment.

LMAOOOOO

12 israeli characters

It annoys me how people automatically assume we hate all Jews and the entire population simply because of the history of the Arab world with Israel. It's their foreign policy that makes everyone so against them. And by them, that's the army+ politicians. Like the planes thing that happened today. They used the opportunity that Mubarak is stuck and the USA doesn't want to back him because of their "reputation" and then they step in and "Oh, of course we'll sell you all the weapons/ammunition you need.. What are neighbours for...?" All that because they're scared s*&%less of that might happen from Hamas, Iran and other groups if Egypt goes out of hand. i.e. they get bombed. Not to forget the attack on the Gaza aid fleet last year. Why should tens of people lose their lives just because they were being the humanitarians you ARE NOT and sending the basic needs to the people in Gaza who you have under siege and keep killing tens of them every single day. Again, all this is targeted towards the politicians and Israeli army. I have tons of Jewish friends who see it the same way. It's not a Muslim/Jew thing or an Arab/Israeli issue. It's about basic human needs of Palestinians being able to go out in the streets, knowing that they'll be back home at the end of the day safely...

-My bad for going off on a tangent -__-

Funny, the US is now saying that they support democratic change in Egypt. They won't admit that they're the ones keeping Mubarak in power till now. Even though they know that in the end they'll turn on him and pretend to be on the side of the people..
GAH, Politics

Originally Posted by ~*Sara*~

It annoys me how people automatically assume we hate all Jews and the entire population simply because of the history of the Arab world with Israel. It's their foreign policy that makes everyone so against them. And by them, that's the army+ politicians. Like the planes thing that happened today. They used the opportunity that Mubarak is stuck and the USA doesn't want to back him because of their "reputation" and then they step in and "Oh, of course we'll sell you all the weapons/ammunition you need.. What are neighbours for...?" All that because they're scared s*&%less of that might happen from Hamas, Iran and other groups if Egypt goes out of hand. i.e. they get bombed. Not to forget the attack on the Gaza aid fleet last year. Why should tens of people lose their lives just because they were being the humanitarians you ARE NOT and sending the basic needs to the people in Gaza who you have under siege and keep killing tens of them every single day. Again, all this is targeted towards the politicians and Israeli army. I have tons of Jewish friends who see it the same way. It's not a Muslim/Jew thing or an Arab/Israeli issue. It's about basic human needs of Palestinians being able to go out in the streets, knowing that they'll be back home at the end of the day safely...

-My bad for going off on a tangent -__-

Funny, the US is now saying that they support democratic change in Egypt. They won't admit that they're the ones keeping Mubarak in power till now. Even though they know that in the end they'll turn on him and pretend to be on the side of the people..
GAH, Politics

thanks for clarifying this to the ppl, cuz honestly some ppl are so ignorant to think and just assume we hate jews... wtf

Originally Posted by Commander

I don't care what it was meant for. A Semite is a Semite.

Unfortunately, what matters is what the term is used for, not what it may or may not have meant when initially conceived, or even as it is generally conceived.

Of course... Indians are Asians too...

But it's just ignorant North Americans who associate "asians" with chinese/koreans/japanese just like associating Semites with only Jews..

That's a very poor comparison. 'Asia' is another poorly-applied term (it was initially used by the Greeks as a reference to one side of the Bosporus). Indeed, linguistically, there's more of a similarity between the majority of Indians (speakers of Indo-European languages) and 'Europeans' than between them and 'fellow Asians'.
The same trend is evident when you consider haplogroups (as flawed as the system may be, it has some worth) - the majority of South Asians are members of the R1 family (R1a), which is the same haplogroup-family as the majority of Europeans (R1b for Western, R1a for Eastern), and rather different from other 'Asian' groups.

Continental definitions are completely arbitrary, for the most part. They don't correspond with geology, and they don't correspond with sociolinguistics either - particularly, in the Europe-Asia case.

It should be evident why comparing this to a largely sociolinguistic issue (the "Semite" naming) is fallacious - indeed, I think you may be reinforcing my point without knowing it - namely, that the intended meaning of particular terms (for example, 'Asia' and 'anti-Semite') need not correspond with their presently (or even originally) recognized meaning. Terms are just products of their times.

Originally Posted by Mahratta

It should be evident why comparing this to a largely sociolinguistic issue (the "Semite" naming) is fallacious - indeed, I think you may be reinforcing my point without knowing it - namely, that the intended meaning of particular terms (for example, 'Asia' and 'anti-Semite') need not correspond with their presently (or even originally) recognized meaning. Terms are just products of their times.

Terms are products of ignorance and words are a product of a language.

In this case, I'll stick to English and use its words.

There's been looting and gunshots in Maadi, and I haven't heard from family :S


On a lighter note, from a list of things-> You know you're an Arab when:
30. You blame the Yahood for eveything!

32. You hear Yahood and go "Ya herrat deenak"

34. You get pissed when an Arab is displayed as a Terrorist in a Movie.

35. You also get pissed when the Yahood are the good guys.

I know its the stereotype, but it still makes me laugh. When I was a kid I thought Yahood was a bad word from the way it was used sometimes

Originally Posted by Commander

Terms are products of ignorance and words are a product of a language.

In this case, I'll stick to English and use its words.

That doesn't make any sense, but I'm unsure of whether it was supposed to at conception. Good, then...I suppose