Originally Posted by lorend

I have a feeling it's more of a 'make sure our service still runs on time' thing. If they cross the lines there will be inevitable delays. To make sure this doesn't happen, they drop off/pick up away from the picket lines.

GO is generally are good at making sure they arrive at the times the schedule says.

HSR...well....they're a different story.

The HSR's union tends to be strike happy, so i'm not surprised that it goes along with this nonsense.

If McGuinty had a spine he'd pass back to work legislation immediately as students are getting ripped off both by sympathy actions, and by loosing out on a very expensive service they paid for. What's wrong with binding arbitration?

Does anyone know if the buses that go down Main St. such as B-Line and 52 Dundas will still stop at Main and Emerson?

Wait, Emerson & Main Street West, does that mean the one with the shelter on main street or the one on Emerson (beside the "Student rooms for rent" thing)?


I can't see the bus poles well in a panoramic, so I can't tell, and I never had to deal with alternative Go service before, so I don't know.

I know it's kind of silly to ask, since I can watch them both, but little things like this stress me out a lot.

Originally Posted by lorend

I have a feeling it's more of a 'make sure our service still runs on time' thing. If they cross the lines there will be inevitable delays. To make sure this doesn't happen, they drop off/pick up away from the picket lines.

GO is generally are good at making sure they arrive at the times the schedule says.

HSR...well....they're a different story.

When asked though they said they were not allowed to enter campus.

I'd like an explanation for this. Who is saying GO transit buses are not allowed to enter?

Not allowed and won't/can't b/c of X are different things.

And from what I understand, it has nothing to do with the damn picketers either; since : If there is a 5 minute limit, then why can't the stupid go buses wait until they clear out?..

And yes, I believe, the Emerson stop is the one with the bus shelter..

The University and the union have agreed to a picketing protocol. The union has agreed that:

Picketing will not delay vehicles for more than 5 minutes in total from the time the vehicle enters a staging area

The staging area will be approximately four car lengths

Originally Posted by pinkshuniza

And from what I understand, it has nothing to do with the damn picketers either; since : If there is a 5 minute limit, then why can't the stupid go buses wait until they clear out?..

And yes, I believe, the Emerson stop is the one with the bus shelter..

The University and the union have agreed to a picketing protocol. The union has agreed that:

Picketing will not delay vehicles for more than 5 minutes in total from the time the vehicle enters a staging area

The staging area will be approximately four car lengths

I was on the phone with a GO rep and they said:

GO is not picking up or dropping off on campus due to potential safety risks in addition to the possibility of delaying routes. Regardless of time of day pickup/drop off is off-campus so long as strike is occurring

Waiting five minutes still makes them five minutes (plus unloading and loading up time late). They can't do that as they have on time log thingies they need to fill out.

This is unacceptable.

1) If the University can get an exemption for Heavy Trucks they can get a no stopping exemption for Buses.

2) Personal safety reasons is bunk too. What are picketers going to do? Turn the bus on its side? Throw molotov cocktails? Sorry, if bus drivers REALLY don't feel safe driving in a HIGHWAY COACH on to campus, then I want police with riot gear to escort me because those picketers must be very dangerous.

On the other hand this screams "Legally we can't do anything to avoid the picket lines except tell GO transit we don't feel safe"

Not only is this unfair to students, it's unfair to community members who now have to deal with Intercity (and a increased number of city) buses unloading and loading on Main Street, in addition to the backups from the delay driving on to campus. Completely unacceptable.

Honestly I'm fine with Go Transits reasoning for it. If they feel due to the strikers blocking the entrances they need to drop us off off campus that isn't their fault.

I agree that the University shouldn't allow picketers to cause problems for buses though. HSR and GO buses should be allowed to enter campus without having to worry about issues due to the pickets. Students pay for HSR and GO bus passes and don't deserve to have their service disrupted by the strike.

I'm billing the University for the amount of food that I need to gain the energy to walk the extra distance.

Originally Posted by goodnews.inc

I'm billing the University for the amount of food that I need to gain the energy to walk the extra distance.

Bill CUPE instead.

In fact take them to small claims court and add "emotional damages" to your list of things you want compensation for. Add to that tuition costs you'd like recouped for the time you missed in tutorial where you could have been learning, what you pay to come to McMaster for. Don't forget to include a refund for at least a portion of your 10-ride or monthly pass.

Originally Posted by sew12

Bill CUPE instead.

In fact take them to small claims court and add "emotional damages" to your list of things you want compensation for. Add to that tuition costs you'd like recouped for the time you missed in tutorial where you could have been learning, what you pay to come to McMaster for. Don't forget to include a refund for at least a portion of your 10-ride or monthly pass.

While it's a great idea. The courts in this country would never award damages over that.

You'll have to trip and fall while doing the walking to get the money.

Originally Posted by arathbon

While it's a great idea. The courts in this country would never award damages over that.

You'll have to trip and fall while doing the walking to get the money.

I was mostly kidding but you get the point, this strike is inconvenient for students.

I always wondered if I could get my tuition paid for if I tripped and hurt myself on those death rocks they used to have in Arts Quad. (If you frequented Arts Quad prior to this year you know what I mean).

Only 40% of my tutorials are beneficial.
I'm appreciative for the TA's efforts and I do value the way they're granting us ways to get marks without killing ourselves, but I don't love the content and the specific ways two of those remaining 3 tutorials proceed.
However, before this has any possibility to be misconstrued - I appreciate the hard work put in by the TA's and their dedication to make things better

Emerson & Main Street West... so this is just near the new engineering building?

btw thanks Bushra for this

Originally Posted by Jake

Emerson & Main Street West... so this is just near the new engineering building?

btw thanks Bushra for this

Yup.

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