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03-29-2012 at 07:28 PM
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I don't get that lady near the end. She says she loves children, and she feels bad when half black/half white children get picked on and made fun of. Wtf? They get bullied because of people like HER.
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03-29-2012 at 08:13 PM
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I think interracial breeding is a personal choice...and is not a matter of right and wrong.
Some people believe they should marry within their own race because they feel its important to keep their culture, tradition, language, etc. These are things that are lost in an interracial relationship and mixed children.
I have cousins who are mixed, and they don't speak my family's native language. They have pretty much been outcasted from the family, as it is impossible for socialize during family gatherings. I feel bad for them, and its not their fault...it was the choice of their parents and now they have to suffer.
In a multi-cultural nation like Canada, I think interracial relationships are occurring more and more, and is easy for us to accept in our Canadian culture. However, in foreign nations that are dominated by a singular race...interracial marriages are outside of the norm, and I can see why people are against it.
Anyways, just my viewpoint. There are 2 sides to every story.
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03-29-2012 at 08:20 PM
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I have cousins who are mixed, and they don't speak my family's native language. They have pretty much been outcasted from the family, as it is impossible for socialize during family gatherings. I feel bad for them, and its not their fault...it was the choice of their parents and now they have to suffer.
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That sounds like the fault of the parents for not really pushing/encouraging their culture on their children than anything to do what their skin looks like. You can be white as a ghost and still be super-ethnic (maybe a bit awkward for a vanilla white dude to embrace his african heritige, though). I think using skin/morphological differences as a a complaint against loss of culture/tradition generally to be bullcrap.
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03-29-2012 at 08:21 PM
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im gona get a white chick and get a freakin hot kid :3
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03-29-2012 at 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan
I think interracial breeding is a personal choice...and is not a matter of right and wrong.
Some people believe they should marry within their own race because they feel its important to keep their culture, tradition, language, etc. These are things that are lost in an interracial relationship and mixed children.
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It's quite one thing to decide that you would prefer to marry someone of your own ethnicity/culture. Individuals can marry whoever the hell they want, obviously as long as there's consent and such. If you decide that this is an important aspect of compatibility to you, great. It's quite another thing to judge anyone else, ever, for choosing to marry someone of a different ethnicity/culture. This video was NOT a case of someone deciding what they want. This was a case of deciding what other people should want.
I do agree that family dynamics are extremely complicated. :(
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03-29-2012 at 08:35 PM
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That sounds like the fault of the parents for not really pushing/encouraging their culture on their children than anything to do what their skin looks like. You can be white as a ghost and still be super-ethnic (maybe a bit awkward for a vanilla white dude to embrace his african heritige, though). I think using skin/morphological differences as a a complaint against loss of culture/tradition generally to be bullcrap.
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I'm not using skin color or morphological differences as a complaint against interracial relationships. I'm actually trying to say that there are larger issues to consider when dealing with interracial relationships, than simply appearances (and that it is not simply a matter of racism or hate).
And FYI, the problem with my cousins and with many mixed children are that they are usually pushed to the culture/language of only one of the parents. It wouldn't be practical for parents to speak to their children in 2 different languages, and the parents would be speaking to each other in 1 common language also, so that is what the kids pick up on. I'm not trying to fault my Aunt and Uncle either...we live in a complicated world...and it is what it is.
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03-29-2012 at 09:05 PM
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I'm not using skin color or morphological differences as a complaint against interracial relationships. I'm actually trying to say that there are larger issues to consider when dealing with interracial relationships, than simply appearances (and that it is not simply a matter of racism or hate).
And FYI, the problem with my cousins and with many mixed children are that they are usually pushed to the culture/language of only one of the parents. It wouldn't be practical for parents to speak to their children in 2 different languages, and the parents would be speaking to each other in 1 common language also, so that is what the kids pick up on. I'm not trying to fault my Aunt and Uncle either...we live in a complicated world...and it is what it is.
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definitely see where you're coming from, but a language barrier wouldn't be a deal breaker for me when finding a potential wife. I don't care about preserving my culture per say, but the values my parents passed on to me along with things I have learned for myself I would definitely want to pass on to my kids.
I have a lot of interracial cousins, and we just speak in english to them, it's universal and I don't find it awkward at all.
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03-29-2012 at 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan
I'm not using skin color or morphological differences as a complaint against interracial relationships. I'm actually trying to say that there are larger issues to consider when dealing with interracial relationships, than simply appearances (and that it is not simply a matter of racism or hate).
And FYI, the problem with my cousins and with many mixed children are that they are usually pushed to the culture/language of only one of the parents. It wouldn't be practical for parents to speak to their children in 2 different languages, and the parents would be speaking to each other in 1 common language also, so that is what the kids pick up on. I'm not trying to fault my Aunt and Uncle either...we live in a complicated world...and it is what it is.
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Many, many people speak different languages to their children. It's actually the best way for children to be brought up multilingual. It usually doesn't matter what the parents speak to each other, but what they speak to the child. Children have no problem code switching depending on the parent and will just automatically speak to mommy in English and daddy in French (for example).
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03-29-2012 at 09:33 PM
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I don't think people should use the basis of race when choosing a significant other. In the end its all about the connection the people have for each other. Why would you force yourself to marry the same race as you are just because of your race. There are more things to take into consideration besides a persons race.
Sometimes its the culture of the person is what matters more than the race. I have friends who are non-caucasian who grew up here in Canada and feel more connected with the Canadian culture than the culture of their race. Therefore, they themselves prefer hanging out with people who associate more with the Canadian culture because there is a common connection, and is not purely based on race.
I also have a friend who is white but was born and grew up in Kenya. She associates more with the Kenyan culture. She told me that she feels more herself when she hangs out with people who have more connection with the Kenyan culture. She told me that even if her parents were white Canadian, she still feels more Kenyan and prefers marrying someone who feels connected with the Kenyan culture. She said she does find it hard to connect with her Canadian cousins.
So in the end its all about connection and mutual understanding. Its not about the race of the person. That's just my opinion.
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Many, many people speak different languages to their children. It's actually the best way for children to be brought up multilingual. It usually doesn't matter what the parents speak to each other, but what they speak to the child. Children have no problem code switching depending on the parent and will just automatically speak to mommy in English and daddy in French (for example).
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Yes, if the child is being raised in Canada and one of their parent's native language is English...then learning 1 foreign language is a no brainer. However, if both parents speak in 2 different foreign languages, and the child also needs to learn English...then that's certainly a lot harder for the child to learn 3 languages. Its doable, but not practical for many families.
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Individuals can marry whoever the hell they want, obviously as long as there's consent and such.
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Exactly. Because it shouldn't matter where you're from when love's involved. It's like that movie - "Interracial Hole Stretchers 2" - she was white; they were black. But it didn't matter in the end, did it? Because they were in love.
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I love that show. It's really shocking and disgraceful in certain situations they have on the show, but sometimes the situations they have aren't shameful like the one you posted. For example this segment on an interracial young couple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GrSm...watch_response
It makes me sad to think that some people can be so close minded, though I do understand a lot of it has to do with their upbringing. I don't think that race or ethnicity should be a determining factor in who someone dates, but of course everyone is going to have their own views and preferences. I personally would never rule out dating someone because of their skin colour or background, to me it's just absurd and has nothing to do with who someone is as a person.
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03-29-2012 at 10:11 PM
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Exactly. Because it shouldn't matter where you're from when love's involved. It's like that movie - "Interracial Hole Stretchers 2" - she was white; they were black. But it didn't matter in the end, did it? Because they were in love.
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This. Well said
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03-29-2012 at 10:16 PM
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my parents would prefer if i married/dated/copulated with another polak, just to keep the blood pure(thanks hitler for giving that a bad meaning) and so their grandkids could have a higher possibility of speaking the language
plus, slavic/EE girls are super good looking
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Lmao, same.
"MARRY A NICE POLISH BOY and pass on the language, traditions & religion"
Easy for her to say, she didn't see the tools I went to Polish school with. -__-
but they seem to be okay with me dating a non polish-speaking guy (he is a quarter polish! xD). As long as Im happy, they're happy.
Although they definitely do still have stereotypes/beliefs about certain people and they sure as hell arent afraid to voice them. D:
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I don't think people should use the basis of race when choosing a significant other. In the end its all about the connection the people have for each other. Why would you force yourself to marry the same race as you are just because of your race. There are more things to take into consideration besides a persons race.
Sometimes its the culture of the person is what matters more than the race. I have friends who are non-caucasian who grew up here in Canada and feel more connected with the Canadian culture than the culture of their race. Therefore, they themselves prefer hanging out with people who associate more with the Canadian culture because there is a common connection, and is not purely based on race.
I also have a friend who is white but was born and grew up in Kenya. She associates more with the Kenyan culture. She told me that she feels more herself when she hangs out with people who have more connection with the Kenyan culture. She told me that even if her parents were white Canadian, she still feels more Kenyan and prefers marrying someone who feels connected with the Kenyan culture. She said she does find it hard to connect with her Canadian cousins.
So in the end its all about connection and mutual understanding. Its not about the race of the person. That's just my opinion.
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very well said. I just realized even though I'm not white, I'm Canadian as sh*t, I only go through the motions with my family b/c I care about them, and even that is minimal, my parents both talk to me in english most of the time.
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