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Pre-req question. Urgent help.

 
Old 09-14-2015 at 06:48 PM   #1
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Pre-req question. Urgent help.
Hi guys, I'm trying to enrol into a course but for some reason I can't enrol
because it says I failed the pre-req for that course.

Enrollment requirements for the course are as follows:

Prerequisite(s): COMPSCI 2C03 or SFWRENG 2FA3 and COMPSCI 2GA3 or SFWRENG 3F03.

My question is I actually have taken a course and passed it which is an anti-req for SFWRENG 3F03.
Shouldn't I be able to enrol according to the requirements provided above?

Any input will be appreciated.
Old 09-14-2015 at 07:06 PM   #2
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Well, did you do either 2C03 or 2FA3?
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Old 09-14-2015 at 07:10 PM   #3
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I did Comp sci 2MF3 which is an anti-req of SFWRENG 3F03.
Old 09-14-2015 at 08:31 PM   #4
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But it clearly says you need 2 courses prerequisites, and it gives you 2 options for both. If you didn't do 2C03 or 2FA3 then you don't have prerequisites.

Also I'm sure an anti prerequisite doesn't count. I was clearly told back in the day by the academic adviser that just because 2 courses are anti-prerequisites for each other, that doesn't mean they are interchangeable as academic requirements for something. The best thing you can do is go to the prof and ask him to sign a permission form, but then again he might say no.
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wont hurt to talk to your department, in some cases they can waive those permissions.

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Thanks for the replies guys.

one more question: last year the pre-reqs required for the course were:

COMP SCI 2MJ3 or SFWR ENG 2FA3 and COMP SCI 2MF3 or SFWR ENG 3F03

and I have done both COMP SCI 2MJ3 & COMP SCI 2MF3. Is it worth it to ask if they
can use last years pre-reqs since they have changed one of the pre-reqs this year?
Old 09-14-2015 at 10:23 PM   #7
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Yeah, totally. I myself have missing courses required for graduation this year, because they changed the course names over the year and Mosaic was designed by monkeys who didn't make sure that Mosaic pulls the requirements from the year you actually entered the university and not when you made slight adjustments to your program. I talked to the adviser and she said she'd pull the requirements from a few years back so I could graduate. So they know Mosaic is all screwed up, and are ready to help.
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thanks bro. You have given me some hope. I'll go talk to Sally tomorrow.
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The prereqs are based on the year you started school. Not sure how the antireqs work for a prereq course, talk to your advisor

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The prereqs are based on the year you started school. Not sure how the antireqs work for a prereq course, talk to your advisor
if the previous pre-reqs are the ones that apply to me then I don't even
have to go into anti-reqs since I've done the exact pre-reqs which were
applicable till last year.

And yes I'll talk to the advisor tomorrow.
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Update guys: Sally the comp sci advisor wasn't in today so I went to see the
people at CAS department office and they told me that I have to meet the
new pre-req requirements and that the last year ones don't hold anymore.

pretty bummed since I won't be able to enrol into a course which is required
for my program.
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Update guys: Sally the comp sci advisor wasn't in today so I went to see the
people at CAS department office and they told me that I have to meet the
new pre-req requirements and that the last year ones don't hold anymore.

pretty bummed since I won't be able to enrol into a course which is required
for my program.
That's pretty balls, you can still find comp sci advisor tomorrow, since tomorrow is the last add/drop day.

Wonder if I should be worried about my graduation requirements (altho our situations are different).
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That's pretty balls, you can still find comp sci advisor tomorrow, since tomorrow is the last add/drop day.

Wonder if I should be worried about my graduation requirements (altho our situations are different).
don't mean to scare you but these people don't seem to care much man. I told them
my situation but all they said was "well those are the rules".

Try and get your courses sorted out. I made a mistake by leaving it last
minute thinking required courses wouldn't be a problem to get into.
Old 09-15-2015 at 05:35 PM   #14
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Just wait till Sally is back and try your luck again, she might be nicer than the CAS people for all you know.

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don't mean to scare you but these people don't seem to care much man. I told them
my situation but all they said was "well those are the rules".

Try and get your courses sorted out. I made a mistake by leaving it last
minute thinking required courses wouldn't be a problem to get into.
No it's just I don't have a problem taking anything. Shit in 4th year I can take whatever I want as long as prove that I have covered the topics from the prerequisites in other courses, lol, been doing that for 2 years.

The situation isn't really about the prereqs, but more about the fact that the program changed and mosaic didn't know about it. I dropped management right after the Mosaic came in power, and it thinks I entered the program 1 year ago and therefore it wants me to take different courses in my 2nd year (which have been changed for 2 years) and doesn't consider all the courses I have already taken and completed.

Yours situation is different because you took an antirequisite, which might not count (as Tron thermo doesn't count for Mech thermo), and that's why the department is flipping out.

Think about it this way: if they didn't allow you to graduate just because they changed a few courses along the way, noone would graduate and the university would be full of people trying to complete their diploma requirements.

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Just wait till Sally is back and try your luck again, she might be nicer than the CAS people for all you know.
CAS office people don't earn their bread. All they do is eat pizza, give bad advises, direct you to wrong people, and constantly lose papers you ask them to submit. 9 times out of 10 when I get walk in there to ask something, the big woman on the front desk is not there, and instead her little friend on the far desk does all the job. Whatever, I only took my business to them 2 times in 5 years, got burnt both times. Done all my stuff in the main office since then.

Just another reason to consider Soft Eng at McMaster complete farce.
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