Originally Posted by bart15

Who says Asians become the top neurosurgeons in the country...quite a generalization. Getting into any professional school is about personal work ethic, not a matter of parental 'torture' to coerce you into completing tasks. By 20 a person be they white or asian should be capable of making decisions on their own (To study or to not study) so what difference does it make to positively encourage children at a young age vs. bombarding them with totalitarian methods...

What is for sure though is that in a comparison between Asians and North Americans I am positive that more North Americans can agree that they have better relationships with their parents than Asians do (Heard it from an Asian myself and it's not hard to believe).

Wow.

A) You seemed to "like" what Kendoon was saying, ignoring the fact that the negative portrayal of asians was stereotypical. However, when a positive portrayal of asians is stereotypical you're the first to reject it. Nice.

B) It's very rare for people to drastically alter their habits and consequently their grades after a certain age. I've seen so many people say "oh no I screwed up first year can I still get into med school" - these same people never come back and say they got in, because guess what, it's not as easy to go from 60s to 95s in one semester just because "he/she felt like trying now".

Sure, people have a decision to study or not, but someone who has been studying hard their entire lives will find it 50x easier to get their work done compared to someone who hasn't. Also, as with anything, practicing studying so much makes you more efficient at it meaning they'll have an upper hand in that regard also.

Difference between "positively encourage children at a young age vs. bombarding them with totalitarian methods..." - few children can be encouraged, and to be honest it's just not as effective as forcing them to do something.

And ****ing LOL @ how you think "white" people have better relationships with their parents than asians do. That's the biggest joke of the year. Is that why I bet you've NEVER heard of an asian kid running away from home? Getting a tattoo or piercing against the wishes of their parents? Swearing at their parents? Breaking into their liquor cabinet to participate in under-age drinking?

And when they're older - people in Asia usually end up incorporating their parents into their home, i.e., they're not shipped off to some old age home and visited once every few months, they live with their children.

Originally Posted by Alchemist11

Wow.

A) You seemed to "like" what Kendoon was saying, ignoring the fact that the negative portrayal of asians was stereotypical. However, when a positive portrayal of asians is stereotypical you're the first to reject it. Nice.

B) It's very rare for people to drastically alter their habits and consequently their grades after a certain age. I've seen so many people say "oh no I screwed up first year can I still get into med school" - these same people never come back and say they got in, because guess what, it's not as easy to go from 60s to 95s in one semester just because "he/she felt like trying now".

Sure, people have a decision to study or not, but someone who has been studying hard their entire lives will find it 50x easier to get their work done compared to someone who hasn't. Also, as with anything, practicing studying so much makes you more efficient at it meaning they'll have an upper hand in that regard also.

Difference between "positively encourage children at a young age vs. bombarding them with totalitarian methods..." - few children can be encouraged, and to be honest it's just not as effective as forcing them to do something.

And ****ing LOL @ how you think "white" people have better relationships with their parents than asians do. That's the biggest joke of the year. Is that why I bet you've NEVER heard of an asian kid running away from home? Getting a tattoo or piercing against the wishes of their parents? Swearing at their parents? Breaking into their liquor cabinet to participate in under-age drinking?

And when they're older - people in Asia usually end up incorporating their parents into their home, i.e., they're not shipped off to some old age home and visited once every few months, they live with their children.

But wait, he spoke to 1 asian person, he HAS to be right.

Originally Posted by Alchemist11

Wow.

A) You seemed to "like" what Kendoon was saying, ignoring the fact that the negative portrayal of asians was stereotypical. However, when a positive portrayal of asians is stereotypical you're the first to reject it. Nice.

tl;dr

please hit ctrl+A after you read this message because I felt kinda bad

i was baiting and feel bad that idiots that actually do think that way latched on to that stupid way of thinking so my bad

I did B)

In fact, it's the only way I got into university. I mean for ****s sake, I failed grade 9 french LOL.

Asian parents that think life revolves around school is plain stupid. This goes for every other races too.

Huh what??


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Originally Posted by esaad91

Huh what??


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Are you referring to my comment?

The first sentence of the article kind of says it all for me:

"A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids"

To this author, "successful" means having a really good (ultimately, high paying) job from hard school work. I would rather have a decent job, be happy, have a fun childhood, experience different things to find my likes and dislikes, etc. I feel bad for the daughters of the author. Their lives sound so boring to me.

Nahh


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Originally Posted by Alchemist11

B) It's very rare for people to drastically alter their habits and consequently their grades after a certain age. I've seen so many people say "oh no I screwed up first year can I still get into med school" - these same people never come back and say they got in, because guess what, it's not as easy to go from 60s to 95s in one semester just because "he/she felt like trying now".

This is completely wrong.

I'd love to show you my grade report.

Originally Posted by Rakim

This is completely wrong.

I'd love to show you my grade report.

I'd show him mine but it would prove the rule so LOL AFK

Ummm I think there should be a middle between the way wester people treat their kids and the way eastern parents treat their kids. For example, most of the western parents treat their kids like they are retarded and let them do w/e the fuk they want pretty much to not let their self-esteem come down. On the other hand, eastern parents have brought their kids into these better countries and try to pretty much act like they own their life now. I was not allowed to play any sports and shit because my rents thought it was dangerous and waste of time cause if your not gonna become Mats sundin or kobe bryant, there is no point. Even though, I know my parents meant well for me but I always have that regret that maybe I could've excelled in sports. I am pretty much mediocre in everything because I rebelled against my parents all the time by not getting good marks.

I think eastern parents should still force good manners and all of the rules on their kids but also let their kids enjoy every aspect of the life. Otherwise, I know many like me who have grown with regrets. Also, eastern parents will sacrifice more for their kids over western parents. However, western parenting seems better overall in a way that they let their kids choose what they want to be. So it might take a kid a bit to figure out what he likes, but once he figures that out, he works hard for it and excels @ it. On the other hand, I know many brown kids who are in medicine but wanted to be painter or photographer but their rentz didn't let them.

Originally Posted by Alchemist11

And ****ing LOL @ how you think "white" people have better relationships with their parents than asians do. That's the biggest joke of the year. Is that why I bet you've NEVER heard of an asian kid running away from home? Getting a tattoo or piercing against the wishes of their parents? Swearing at their parents? Breaking into their liquor cabinet to participate in under-age drinking?

damn kamran have you never met an asian person before going to university? LOL

I think anytime someone comes to a country with opportunties for their kids they will want their kids to make the most out of it. Thats why so many immigrant parents are so strict, compared to parents born and raised in Canada or US who Im sure most of the time have different experiences.

Originally Posted by darklink121

Real name: maximus decimus meridius

That is all.