Originally Posted by ikantsepll

▼Sorry, but I already won!▼



@ the number of brown people on MI so far. I like it

ya i know but look at the number of white people its way more lol

Originally Posted by mfattal

ya i know but look at the number of white people its way more lol

Dude you're making it sound like it's a competition...

Originally Posted by ikantsepll

Dude you're making it sound like it's a competition...

no not a competition

if you read earlier in the thread people where saying its a brown/asain school

lol @ "races"

(Europen AND Caucasian? Persian AND Arab/Middle Eastern? South American AND Latin?"

Honestly, we don't even have good racists on here anymore. Poor MI.

Originally Posted by Souldier

You seem to be doing a lot of damage controlling, trying to rationalize that there isn't something wrong with the fact that nearly ALL of your friends are of your race. There's a reason McMaster is so segregated and cliquey when it comes to race, and it's because of people like you.

It's not just Mac, it's everywhere. If anything, we're better than many other schools because of how diverse the campus is. Man, you think this school is cliquey? Try going to York or Queens. Personally, I find the whole "People at Mac only hang out with those of their own race" issue only applies to a select number of people. We're not like the cafeteria in Mean Girls, ffs.

Also, a lot of people stick with what they're familiar with for whatever reason. I don't see why it should be an issue for you, unless you personally wanted to befriend that person and didn't fit their "criteria". Sometimes it's even a case of who they somehow end up gravitating towards, not actively seeking as friends. I don't have a lot of black friends or that many brown friends; doesn't mean I go out of my way to avoid them.

Jeez.

Originally Posted by britb

lol @ "races"

(Europen AND Caucasian? Persian AND Arab/Middle Eastern? South American AND Latin?"

Honestly, we don't even have good racists on here anymore. Poor MI.

i admit i did make a couple of mistakes

Originally Posted by mfattal

lol

at least i got the answer

from the poll i see that mostly white people go to mac

followed by brown and Asians

then rest lol

good to know there are couple of arabs as well

You're weird. How did you get accepted to Mac. I guess Mac lowers their standards more every year, someone has to pay the bills.

Originally Posted by britb

lol @ "races"

(Europen AND Caucasian? Persian AND Arab/Middle Eastern? South American AND Latin?"

Honestly, we don't even have good racists on here anymore. Poor MI.

Persians aren't arab. They don't even speak Arabic, they speak Farsi.

Racism:
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

That happens on MI a lot, and in this thread by one or two people, but purpose of the original thread was not racist.

Which reminds me.. way earlier in the thread somone said the being white makes you superior ...and everyone ignored it
....and then I'm the one that gets attacked when I say we're all equal and awesome and should be proud of the things that make us unique? 0_o

Originally Posted by crazyfree

What damage control? I haven't done any damage...all I've said is that we're all awesome and should love the skin we're in 0_o
Dear god, it's like misunderstand Crazyfree week or something...

I'm saying we should all be proud of our colour, and accept and love it. One of my favourite things about Canada is how multicultural we are. I've grown up going to Muslim camp, attending bar mitzvahs, going to Indian Weddings, participating in African festivals, going to Chinese events. Generally, I was one of a tiny portion of white people there, but my mother's friends always invited her to their celebrations etc, so I always got to go along. These aren't isolated events...this was my entire life, as soon as I was old enough to go places with her until I left for university.

I'm actually very lucky in that respect, because my mother (as a middle eastern immigrant herself) is incredibly involved in the "ethnic" community, so I basically grew up in a world village. I grew up seeing the wonderful things offered by every culture, and appreciating the beauty each person, colour, eye shape etc held.

Because of that, I don't think I could ever explain exactly how sad and frustrating it is to see those cliques form. It's like we deny ourselves the chance to really get to know how awesome we are by SHARING our differencers instead of hiding them and keeping them only to those who share them with us. Its like you don't understand WHY those cliques form-because we all chose to ignore, instead of embrace and love our differences. By ignoring the things that make us unique you destroy one if the most wonderful things about living in Canada...our multiculturalism. People in other countries can go their whole lives without meeting a person that has a different skin colour or different culture. We are so lucky here to have that-It's something to celebrate and LOVE about ourselves.

My friends are Indian, Chinese, Iranian, Pakistani, British, Egyptian, Polish, and Guyanese. And obviously much more. I myself couldn't even be in a clique if I wanted to...I'm white on the outside, but am completely middle eastern in terms in my blood, my language, my upbringing, my everything. As a result I've never even felt the need to "fit" into a clique because I had no where to fit..which is why I've always hung out with whoever the **** I wanted without being held back by their colour. And as a result I've noticed how a lot of visible minorities tend to put themselves down for their colour. Why the **** should that happen? They, and WE should all love the body we are in. Instead of ignoring our colour, I should be able to say "I love you dark skin tone" without it coming across as anything other than the compliment that it is. Just like if I tell a friend she looks pretty.

I'm really not sure what issue you guys are having with this. You honestly think it's better if we all just ignore how beautiful we all are?

WOW! YOU HAVE TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON YOUR HANDS TO WRITE AN ESSAY HERE!!

JUST SAYIN!

Originally Posted by nikJ

WOW! YOU HAVE TOO MUCH FREE TIME ON YOUR HANDS TO WRITE AN ESSAY HERE!!

JUST SAYIN!

It's reading week...ofc I have free time

I got the impression that people were completely misunderstanding me, so I wanted to clear it up.

Originally Posted by crazyfree

What damage control? I haven't done any damage...all I've said is that we're all awesome and should love the skin we're in 0_o
Dear god, it's like misunderstand Crazyfree week or something...

I'm saying we should all be proud of our colour, and accept and love it. One of my favourite things about Canada is how multicultural we are. I've grown up going to Muslim camp, attending bar mitzvahs, going to Indian Weddings, participating in African festivals, going to Chinese events. Generally, I was one of a tiny portion of white people there, but my mother's friends always invited her to their celebrations etc, so I always got to go along. These aren't isolated events...this was my entire life, as soon as I was old enough to go places with her until I left for university.

I'm actually very lucky in that respect, because my mother (as a middle eastern immigrant herself) is incredibly involved in the "ethnic" community, so I basically grew up in a world village. I grew up seeing the wonderful things offered by every culture, and appreciating the beauty each person, colour, eye shape etc held.

Because of that, I don't think I could ever explain exactly how sad and frustrating it is to see those cliques form. It's like we deny ourselves the chance to really get to know how awesome we are by SHARING our differencers instead of hiding them and keeping them only to those who share them with us. Its like you don't understand WHY those cliques form-because we all chose to ignore, instead of embrace and love our differences. By ignoring the things that make us unique you destroy one if the most wonderful things about living in Canada...our multiculturalism. People in other countries can go their whole lives without meeting a person that has a different skin colour or different culture. We are so lucky here to have that-It's something to celebrate and LOVE about ourselves.

My friends are Indian, Chinese, Iranian, Pakistani, British, Egyptian, Polish, and Guyanese. And obviously much more. I myself couldn't even be in a clique if I wanted to...I'm white on the outside, but am completely middle eastern in terms in my blood, my language, my upbringing, my everything. As a result I've never even felt the need to "fit" into a clique because I had no where to fit..which is why I've always hung out with whoever the **** I wanted without being held back by their colour. And as a result I've noticed how a lot of visible minorities tend to put themselves down for their colour. Why the **** should that happen? They, and WE should all love the body we are in. Instead of ignoring our colour, I should be able to say "I love you dark skin tone" without it coming across as anything other than the compliment that it is. Just like if I tell a friend she looks pretty.

I'm really not sure what issue you guys are having with this. You honestly think it's better if we all just ignore how beautiful we all are?

I was thinking that when I read through this thread, too! I really don't understand how your opinions are so misinterpreted.

Originally Posted by MSaleh

Reading your remarkably optimistic posts reminds me of two things:

1) That family in Family Guy where Stewie gets adopted, with the multicultural family.
2) Motivational Speakers, or Self-Help books, with all your "LOVE YOURSELF AND CELEBRATE YOUR DIFFERENCES!" sayings.

Be happy you are of a race, but I still go with the saying you shouldn't be proud of it, when you had no control over it. You are proud of an achievement you did, you didn't achieve being Egyptian, you were born and raised as one. If your parents were German, and you somehow grew up to be an Egyptian, then be proud of being Egyptian.

Hey those books get published and make money, so someone must be reading them

I disagree with the pride point, but I'm honestly not going to bother arguing it anymore. I have pride in the culture and history behind me, and my family bloodline. You don't. That's fine.

I think all the confusion was some people, for some reason, thought that pride=I think I'm superior. Which is just silly tbh. You can have pride in yourself without thinking you're better than someone else.

Originally Posted by crazyfree

It's reading week...ofc I have free time

I got the impression that people were completely misunderstanding me, so I wanted to clear it up.

Enough free time to have a coffee with me?

Originally Posted by nikJ

Enough free time to have a coffee with me?

<Insert Internet High 5 Here>