I have no idea about the last part! It was the VP Admin who told me the story like 30 minutes ago! I'll see if I can find it but I'm not that good at expert level google searches(like they show in tv shows/movies) Any of the Insider Pensioners (Nicole,Danielle or Tbrown ) remember?

Originally Posted by huzaifa47

Any of the Insider Pensioners (Nicole,Danielle or Tbrown ) remember?

Negatory.

As soon as I read the first positive post I knew someone at College Pro had read here and asked people who either actually did work for them and might in the tiny percentage of people who didn't have a bad experience or just signed up them self to make a positive post. The second post just confirmed it. All the negativity and now all of the sudden someone is saying how great the company is.

Also I laughed at the girl getting all pissed about the identity thing. She claims to be a real Mac student etc but then won't confirm it in anyway. Yeah okay.

Fake. It's just good PR for the company. Don't fall for it people.

Originally Posted by lawleypop

If you actually went to this school, you wouldn't mind getting searched up on Facebook. You know why this sentence doesn't make sense? Because you "don't wanna get searched up on facebook," yet you make an account username that would SEEM like you had a valid identity.

Who makes a username with a full name and doesn't want to get searched on facebook?

Why wouldn't you have to validate your identity? You're one of two people on this thread that have given a good review about CP and like the other person, your account was created yesterday. And you have one post.

Come on. If you ARE in university, I know you can follow this logic.

Uhh..... Honestly, I think it's creepy to think that when I post on MacInsiders people look me up on Facebook. Who cares if she's legit or not, seriously. She has the right to some sort of privacy-- if she is even a she. You've heard numerous sources explain their views on the company make your own informed decision. Don't harass someone because their view is different than the norm. I've had jobs that everyone's hated but I've absolutely loved. Everyone can have their own opinion, I think you guys are getting out of line and being very disrepectful.

Originally Posted by ferreinm

Uhh..... Honestly, I think it's creepy to think that when I post on MacInsiders people look me up on Facebook. Who cares if she's legit or not, seriously. She has the right to some sort of privacy-- if she is even a she. You've heard numerous sources explain their views on the company make your own informed decision. Don't harass someone because their view is different than the norm. I've had jobs that everyone's hated but I've absolutely loved. Everyone can have their own opinion, I think you guys are getting out of line and being very disrepectful.

Well I agree and disagree; Agree that some of us were stepping over the line while calling it out.

BUT the establishment of identity is important if we want regular Macinsiders readers to get a fair and unbiased account. If that account isn't real and that actually is doctored information and reading it some random first year goes out and accumulates debt then we are slightly responsible! :S Sort of.....I mean I would be apprehensive about people asking for my FB link as well! But then again I wouldn't be in a situation where I would be asked to do that! She clearly knew that the sentiment was against Painting companies; for her to write 500 words about the company. She should have known!

Ever heard of this lot? & Their response
There are people out there who excel at spreading information that supports their point of view. As unfortunate as that is :(

Originally Posted by ferreinm

Uhh..... Honestly, I think it's creepy to think that when I post on MacInsiders people look me up on Facebook. Who cares if she's legit or not, seriously. She has the right to some sort of privacy-- if she is even a she. You've heard numerous sources explain their views on the company make your own informed decision. Don't harass someone because their view is different than the norm. I've had jobs that everyone's hated but I've absolutely loved. Everyone can have their own opinion, I think you guys are getting out of line and being very disrepectful.

This isn't.. harassment. I would hate to see your reaction when I'm actually being mean/calling someone out.

She's saying she's part of our community and has actually had a good working experience, yet she can't prove it. She can't even give us an inkling of some sort of confirmation that she's not lying. All I'm asking is for proof, because her logic is STUPID. It doesn't add up! Simple! If calling someone out for that is harassment, then so be it. I'm harassing her. Big whoops. Me doing this to "her" is probably a hell of a lot less worse than what this company does to students.

I never heard that story. But, hI ave heard of many a student going missing and then turn up somewhere later on.. I may have heard something happen as a result of one of those teach english in korea things but it could have just been one of those stories people tell.

I can vouch for the girl who said she enjoyed her experience. I had worked with people who enjoyed it too. However, it can really be hit or miss. I really felt that in a lot of ways, I was taken advantage of. I didn't hate my manager or any of my coworkers. Actually, all of us are still good friends. What I did not appreciate was the way it was set up, the payment structure, but mainly the unsafe conditions. My dad was a contractor and when he heard that I was often up on a second story roof with no other people on the job site because they both decided it'd be good to take the day off, he was furious. He said it was illegal to have that... I never looked that up to confirm but I wasn't too impressed with the idea of it either way. I was never bitter about painting for a summer. I didn't mind it at all. But, there was too much stuff that really ruined it... especially the low pay... so I could never possibly recommend it. There are other *safer* ways to get solid character building experiences. The only thing I probably became out of it was bitter.

Overall, I found the company unprofessional and would rather work harder myself to help friends find a job rather than have them get desparate and take up this one just so that they could pay for their summer school tuition. It's not a happy situation to be in.


Here's a friendly solution that frees us from the binds of one of these college pro-esque companies.. I saw a segment on the news recently about a program geared towards helping students start their own businesses. You have to go through a decent process in order to get this start-up assistance but at least that way you can assure yourself that you're going in with a good plan and won't be tied to any parent company or anything sketchy. And, because you can choose what business you're going to start, you can pick something you're passionate about that could possibly build up into your future career.... now if only I could find the link with this information...... blast! I'll find it dag nabit!

Hey guys,
So after reading a bit of this thread, I thought it was my responsibility to tell everyone the truth. College Pro Window Cleaners is most definitely NOT a scam. I was first hired by them 2 yrs ago, and am returning for a 3rd year of running my own business. Currently, I am in my 3rd yr in Commerce, and being with College Pro has helped me sooo much along my university career. Before I was pretty shy, and a bit disorganized, but now I’m an active member in DCS amongst other clubs at MAC and am able to manage my time very well. Seriously guys, this is an absolutely amazing opportunity if you actually want to do this. Yes, it is hard work, there’s no questioning that, but College Pro has an amazing staff that will help you along the way. I’ve had the same coach my whole time being here. She has assisted me every time I asked for help or if I had a question in regards to my sales pitch, for example. For sure do your research, there is nothing to hide. Go to www.gotoaction.com and see for yourselves. Also, feel free to e-mail me with any questions – [email protected]. Get the right answers from the right sources, it's not fair having people bad mouth this specific company when they haven't worked for them.

Another one with one post, shocking.

Obviously these people weren't previously members of MacInsiders so someone had to have tipped them off to come post here.

Howdy guys,

Yes, I'm another first time user, and yes, I did get tipped off to post here. However, I wasn't going to post until I saw what some of these ignorant people were saying. I worked with Action/ College Pro this summer, as a manager in Hamilton, and I had a blast. $20 000 profit aside, I met lots of great people, did lots of fun things that I wouldn't ever have done otherwise, and learned a bunch of things that will make me look way better to employers after I'm done at Mac.

Sure it's hard work, and if you can't handle it then don't even bother applying. But it is certainly not a scam! I'm in environmental science, but did just fine. They set you up, teach you everything you need to know, and help you every step of the way.

As for working as a painter/ window cleaner, it is very situational, as with any job. Some managers will be great and keep your needs in mind, while others will not, but it's unfair to just generalize, when most managers are in the same boat as you, and know you need to make money to pay for school. My crew was making a lot more money than most of their friends and having a lot of fun doing it. I'm sorry if you guys had bad experiences, but please don't chirp the companies because it wasn't the right job for you; chirp the manager you worked for, because it was them, and not the company, that screwed you over.

As you can tell, I'm pretty into this window cleaning thing (and why wouldn't I be, considering I made more money in one summer doing this than most of you will make during your whole university career?), so if you have questions, feel free to send me a message [email protected] or facebook me.

Cheers,
Paul

Originally Posted by PRobitaille

...I wasn't going to post until I saw what some of these ignorant people were saying...

... (and why wouldn't I be, considering I made more money in one summer doing this than most of you will make during your whole university career?), ..

.. Wow.

People are posting their PERSONAL experiences with the company, or posting links to other people's personal experiences with the company. How is that ignorant? If you like the company, good for you. But please don't insult members of this forum. That will not get your message across.

What do you expect people to believe -- Hundreds of bad reviews on the internet calling the company a scam, or three posts from first-time users on a McMaster forum?

This is getting ridiculous. Obviously people from the company are trolling the internet to find negative feedback about them and tipping off either a small percentage of happy workers or sending in people to post fake testimonials. Either way it's complete bs and I really hope people don't get sucked in by it. The last person even admitted to posting here b/c they'd been tipped off about the negativey here.

There's a big difference between negative feedback and misinformation. If someone has a well informed opinion, based on actually working for one of these companies, then they have every right to share it, good or bad. None of us has a problem with that.

The problem here is that the majority of people either haven't worked for the company and are basing their comments around outrageous rumors or are blaming the company for something that a franchisee did to them.

Also, I would trust the person who has posted once on here and has a real opinion, over the person who has posted 700 times, has an opinion on basically everything, and bases comments around belittling people who have had some first hand experience with the subject.

Originally Posted by PRobitaille

There's a big difference between negative feedback and misinformation. If someone has a well informed opinion, based on actually working for one of these companies, then they have every right to share it, good or bad. None of us has a problem with that.

The problem here is that the majority of people either haven't worked for the company and are basing their comments around outrageous rumors or are blaming the company for something that a franchisee did to them.

Also, I would trust the person who has posted once on here and has a real opinion, over the person who has posted 700 times, has an opinion on basically everything, and bases comments around belittling people who have had some first hand experience with the subject.

What is posted here is negative feedback NOT misinformation no matter what kind of spin you'd like to put on it.

You're deliberately trying to spin this and make it look like the people with negative feedback are lying, spreading rumors etc. What you're doing is irresponsible and could potentially suck in naive, desperate first years.