Here is something McGuinty did

http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/12/10/o...20-law-secret/


http://www.nationalpost.com/todays-p...230/story.html


http://www.therecord.com/print/article/493425



And here is something Paul Martin did and Harper got in trouble for( Im bringing this up because it was included in the video as Shit Harper Did)

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/...8e3570&k=39382

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...-diplomat.html

Originally Posted by Mahratta

Oh, sorry about that. It was meant for jo87. Your posting styles are very similar.



That may well be true, but one can easily argue that Harper could (and should) have done more to balance the books, going into the recession with such a hefty surplus. After all, there were one or two northern European countries ('inefficient commies' in your eyes?) that managed to preserve positive numbers throughout the recession, or only dipped into the red very briefly...

I blame all the spending on the opposition who threatened Harper with an election every time he wanted to cut back on something. commies? yeah I tend to use that term now and again. and the European countries brought each other down with that European Union club that they all signed up for. A mistake from the beginning, that one.

ROFL! THE EU was a MISTAKE!?

Greece would not be a country if it weren't for the EU, and many nations would be at war, in shambles and much more. Let's not even dispute the EU when talking about Canada.

As for your links... Hey Tips: Dalton runs a province. Provincial Liberals are not Federal Liberals. And I noticed your dirty trick to make it look like you have lots of great points... Your 3rd link in that list is interesting at best... Many large cities extend drinking times around major festivals involving alcohol: You just wanted to fill out your list of "evidence". Might as well have linked me to a youtube video of the Teletubbies... Worthless crap.

Congrats on picking out a point from the youtube video that you could call controversial. You've only got another 30-50 more points to find misconstrued evidence against (because the majority of those points are true and hit home HARD).

Originally Posted by mike_302

ROFL! THE EU was a MISTAKE!?Greece would not be a country if it weren't for the EU, and many nations would be at war, in shambles and much more. Let's not even dispute the EU when talking about Canada.

Greece was fine until they joined EU after that their problems just got worse. EU only works for the rich countries that exploit those that have nothing. Besides Greece would not be a country to you because you live in a bubble, you probably can't even list all the countries in Europe. EU is just another body of the IMF that lives to enforece same rules and regulations on countries that have no other options.

Originally Posted by jo87

Greece was fine until they joined EU

{facepalm}

Originally Posted by jo87

EU only works for the rich countries that exploit those that have nothing.

You don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it's titled "The Conservatives"

Originally Posted by jo87

Besides Greece would not be a country to you because you live in a bubble, you probably can't even list all the countries in Europe.

you're so far off the mark, just like most other things you've posted... Not only am I of Hungarian decent, but I've traveled to nearly 1/2 of EU countries.

Ma'am, it's official. You have foot-in-mouth disease. I warned you of your habits... Should've taken my advice to stop saying that you felt "must be true by your standard of logic", just because you felt like it. Symptoms of your disease will include: Inability to connect credible statements, inability to be taken seriously, and lots of laughter... At you.

Thank you, good day.

Originally Posted by mike_302

{facepalm}



You don't seem to have a problem with that concept when it's titled "The Conservatives"



you're so far off the mark, just like most other things you've posted... Not only am I of Hungarian decent, but I've traveled to nearly 1/2 of EU countries.

Ma'am, it's official. You have foot-in-mouth disease. I warned you of your habits... Should've taken my advice to stop saying stuff just because you felt like it.

Thank you, good day.

Well you are Hungarian, that means you are educated in all things related to Europe. That and travelling to European countries mens nothing, you're just another tourist. You don't knowanything about living in Europe, expecially countries that have nothing. I on the other hand do. I have first hand experience of living thre and seeing what EU does to certain countries. And FYI i did not say I am voting for Harper, I just have a problem with liars.

I promise you, I know nothing of tourism Backpacking parts of Eastern Europe for several months does not count as tourism. But the rest of your claims are about as founded and plausible for me to believe as your last post, which has indicated to us that you have foot-in-mouth disease, and therefore any reader takes it as a grain of truth.

Originally Posted by jo87

Well you are Hungarian, that means you are educated in all things related to Europe. That and travelling to European countries mens nothing, you're just another tourist. You don't knowanything about living in Europe, expecially countries that have nothing. I on the other hand do. I have first hand experience of living thre and seeing what EU does to certain countries. And FYI i did not say I am voting for Harper, I just have a problem with liars.

Paraphrase: Hey guy, you have no proof that you are not lying. Here is some possibly fake anecdotal evidence that totally proves i know my stuff. FYI: derp.

Originally Posted by mike_302

Backpacking parts of Eastern Europe for several months does not count as tourism.

Tourist and nothing more, actually a privilaged tourist. I mean how many people have a chance to backpack through Europe for several months? Are you sure you're not voting for Harper?

Well! Glad that's been decided... I'm not too sure how priviledged you have to be to live on a shoestring budget, out of a backpack... But I'll accept it because it's not something I've denied or taken for granted.

(ooops, your attempt to make me look like an idiotic hypocrite has backfired... Foot-in-mouth disease flares up again!)

Originally Posted by mike_302

Well! Glad that's been decided... I'm not too sure how priviledged you have to be to live on a shoestring budget, out of a backpack... But I'll accept it because it's not something I've denied or taken for granted.

(ooops, your attempt to make me look like an idiotic hypocrite has backfired... Foot-in-mouth disease flares up again!)

haha.. you're accusing someone of the same thing you've been doing throughout this whole thread? You've tried to label me as an elitest:

"You must highly segregate yourself from anyone less priviledged than you eh? So far you've made it clear you only converse with those students in University that are extremely well off financially (a very small section of students)..." pg 4 of this post

Then you try object to my way of thinking by taking only this topic and applying it to everything other social political topic ( I am in no way opposed to helping people out in most circumstances. However, this is just pure laziness on the part of the students) :

Your Conservative views are very much: "If I can do it, he/she can too, no if's and's or but's about it. Screw you if you can't do what I can: You don't even deserve an opportunity to be considered part of Canada (including voting, education, and public services) because you would make the rest of us look bad".

And finally, lets not forget post number 51 where again you try to describe the fact that I'm a heartless conservative. ( of course your original post had a lot more swearing) I am by no way heartless. I see the waste in the health care system, and I see how money goes out to groups because I've volunteered there. NO MONEY WILL HELP UNLESS PEOPLE WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES. It's true for everywhere I volunteered. So before you tell people " you have foot-in-mouth disease", look at your previous posts. I only wonder why our generation has to have everything in front of them on a silver plater. People have lost their lives to have a vote. It's the least university students can do to take a bus and vote

Originally Posted by Misspolitics

haha.. you're accusing someone of the same thing you've been doing throughout this whole thread? You've tried to label me as an elitest:

"You must highly segregate yourself from anyone less priviledged than you eh? So far you've made it clear you only converse with those students in University that are extremely well off financially (a very small section of students)..." pg 4 of this post

In no way is there a connection between trips I've taken, and a political preference to spend money on students, or not to spend money on students. I'm clearly Liberal in my points of view... Going on a backpacking trip, and segregating myself from students that collect OSAP are not the same thing as your political preference to not fund underprivileged individuals to pay for a 20-40 thousand dollar education.

Originally Posted by Misspolitics

Then you try object to my way of thinking by taking only this topic and applying it to everything other social political topic ( I am in no way opposed to helping people out in most circumstances. However, this is just pure laziness on the part of the students) :

Your Conservative views are very much: "If I can do it, he/she can too, no if's and's or but's about it. Screw you if you can't do what I can: You don't even deserve an opportunity to be considered part of Canada (including voting, education, and public services) because you would make the rest of us look bad".

Your ideology is one way or the other... It's not both... Your ideas are that if you are capable of voting, despite the difficulties you may have between you and a polling station, then everyone else must have the,. Your ideas that, if you've been saving for university from grade 5, then everyone else could have. and if not, you have both very literally said: "Too bad... If I can, you can", and you admit that this is your Conservative way.



And if anyone else can figure out what her last paragraph means, by all means go ahead (and Thanks jo, by we won't be needing your interpretation... I trust it about as little as possible.)

Originally Posted by Misspolitics

... ( I am in no way opposed to helping people out in most circumstances. However, this is just pure laziness on the part of the students)

as an OSAP student...I'm a little offended. "pure laziness on the part of the students"?? for not having rich parents or the ability to be able to save up since grade 5? because my life circumstances do not allow me to be able to pay for school, i shouldn't receive help from the government to try and improve said life circumstances? I mean, you are "in no way opposed to helping people out in most circumstances"...so why does that change for students in these circumstances that maybe cannot afford to go to school or save up since grade 5?! why wouldn't you want to help them out?

you're really contradicting yourself here.

personally, since i DO take OSAP, i try and work extra hard to do well and pay off these loans because i know it's not some sort of free handout and i appreciate the government helping me out.

Here misspolitics; and jo; I'm going to help you out and provide a response to the above post that is consistent with what you've already said, so that you can have some relief from this hypocritical/foot-in-mouth-disease problem you've been having:

"you may work extra hard, but you're a minority amongst a much larger group that does not necessarily try harder/is a riskier investment. We think Canada can spend its money on better investments than students."

(no offence to lakhim... The above is not my personal point of view)

Originally Posted by lakhim

as an OSAP student...I'm a little offended. "pure laziness on the part of the students"?? for not having rich parents or the ability to be able to save up since grade 5? because my life circumstances do not allow me to be able to pay for school, i shouldn't receive help from the government to try and improve said life circumstances? I mean, you are "in no way opposed to helping people out in most circumstances"...so why does that change for students in these circumstances that maybe cannot afford to go to school or save up since grade 5?! why wouldn't you want to help them out?

you're really contradicting yourself here.

personally, since i DO take OSAP, i try and work extra hard to do well and pay off these loans because i know it's not some sort of free handout and i appreciate the government helping me out.

This was strictly related to voting. It had nothing to do with osap. If you actually read my post, which is #46, you would understand. my exact words were:

No, I am just one of those people who started saving since 5th grade. Governments should maybe do the same.

my response was to clarify two things: that
1) nobody should be attacking someones character based on their political views and
2) In the real world, people must take time to vote, whether after work, etc.

Last time I looked, exams don't run from 9AM-8PM, so you would have time to vote.

I'm sorry if it was taken out of context.:smile_coffee :