Originally Posted by jesus

Strange, my mom doesn't get the flu shot and she works for a hospital.

I had to before I could volunteer at Sick Kids, and I know tons of other nurses etc that get them during the year.

I think it is standard procedure, but you may be able to opt out, I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by jesus

The problem is that the flu shot only protects against predicted strains of the influenza virus. They've been wrong before.

Plus, the flu can spread through contaminated surfaces.[/quote]

Yup, they're wrong fairly often if I'm not mistaken.

Originally Posted by jesus

Plus, the flu can spread through contaminated surfaces.

Heh heh fomites!!

Originally Posted by jesus

Dillon - :p more people have died from the regular flu than from swine flu. But, I blame the media more than the government with this issue.

It's funny....a friend of mine is a writer for the Toronto Sun, and his facebook status the other day was "Hamthrax is so overblown -- but I'm stuck in the big smog until August 18 because of it." I was like "I blame you and your co-workers; complain to them"

Originally Posted by jesus

Dillon - :p more people have died from the regular flu than from swine flu. But, I blame the media more than the government with this issue.

*applause*

Originally Posted by lorend

I had to before I could volunteer at Sick Kids, and I know tons of other nurses etc that get them during the year.

Are you sure this was indeed a flu shot and not a tuberculosis vaccination? I know those are manditory for anyone applying to teacher's college, or who will be in contact with children/teens...the flu shots, I was under the impression, could not be manditory because of conflict or interest, or something like that (basically, some people refuse to get one, and have a right to). I'm not a bio major, but isn't it just last year's strain of flu anyway?

Originally Posted by Mowicz

*applause*



Are you sure this was indeed a flu shot and not a tuberculosis vaccination? I know those are manditory for anyone applying to teacher's college, or who will be in contact with children/teens...the flu shots, I was under the impression, could not be manditory because of conflict or interest, or something like that (basically, some people refuse to get one, and have a right to). I'm not a bio major, but isn't it just last year's strain of flu anyway?

Are you talking about the TB Vaccines or the TB test? I know you have to do the TB test in order to volunteer at hospitals, nursing homes, etc...

Originally Posted by jhan523

Are you talking about the TB Vaccines or the TB test? I know you have to do the TB test in order to volunteer at hospitals, nursing homes, etc...

Yeah contrary to what I had posted, I meant the TB test. Haha.

Originally Posted by Mowicz

Are you sure this was indeed a flu shot and not a tuberculosis vaccination? I know those are manditory for anyone applying to teacher's college, or who will be in contact with children/teens...the flu shots, I was under the impression, could not be manditory because of conflict or interest, or something like that (basically, some people refuse to get one, and have a right to). I'm not a bio major, but isn't it just last year's strain of flu anyway?

Flu shot and TB test. I'd like to think I'd know what I was injected with.

No need to get testy I was just asking xD

But 99% of people don't know what they're injected with :p All you know is what you were tooooooold you were injected with...

*conspiracy theories*

Originally Posted by Mowicz

No need to get testy I was just asking xD

But 99% of people don't know what they're injected with :p All you know is what you were tooooooold you were injected with...

*conspiracy theories*

LOL yeah there actually are people who actually and truely believe in this conspiracy theory! But it sort of actually makes sense, for example the Elite putting secret serums into the Lower Social Strata! Marxism 101

Haha

I was joking, but only like a half joke...if I received an inoculation, I would know its intended purpose but not really what it is, since I'm not exactly well versed in biology/chemistry (although I did do decently on the MCAT). Someone (I apologize for forgetting who) already mentioned the use of mercury as a preserving agent I think it was...what percentage of the general population do you suppose has access to this knowledge?

I would suspect most people have no idea what's in a vaccine, or any of its potential risks...that's what my point was, delivered as a joke lol

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I looked into the 'freedom from flu shots' that I was referring to before, since lorend has opposing testemony...and we're both right.

It turns out all health care providers must get an annual flu shot....unless they have an express written refusal which will go on file. So it's moreso that they are very strongly encouraged to receive the shot...but have the option of refusal...or at least they should.

"...society officials insisted they aren't advocating that people receive shots against their will."

"And making somebody sign a piece of paper just puts it higher on the list of the 20 things that these poor overworked health-care workers have to do. It's almost more of a forced education than a forced 'You must take this vaccine.'"

(Source: http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/...flu-shots.html)

Though my source is a bit dated, I now realize...I'll look for a more recent one.


EDIT: Couldn't find one and I got bored already xD

Just wondering - why is it when we get off topic by talking about religion and culture we're "reminded", but when we get off topic talking about inoculations (also NOT about gloves at pillars) it's fine?

I'm really big on open discussion, is all.

Originally Posted by jesus

Contrary to what the Ontario Government says, getting a flu shot is kind of silly unless you're immune compromised or elderly.

Agreeeeeeddddd

I don't like getting flu shots, because I hate shots in general, but it can be useful. I'm not immune compromised or anything, but perfectly healthy people can catch a flu. I caught it right before exams started and it wasn't nice haha.

Originally Posted by micadjems

Just wondering - why is it when we get off topic by talking about religion and culture we're "reminded", but when we get off topic talking about inoculations (also NOT about gloves at pillars) it's fine?

I'm really big on open discussion, is all.

Because religion and sexual orientation have nothing to do with food preparation. Users also considered the argument very offensive.

I was actually about to re-remind users after I noticed my previous post was contributing to another de-rail.

Soooo once again, unless this conversation can go back to the initial topic it will be closed.

Originally Posted by lorend

Because religion and sexual orientation have nothing to do with food preparation. Users also considered the argument very offensive.

The person that brought up Halal meats and fundamentalism made it religious, not the guy that argued about it. If blame is gonna be cast, cast it in the right direction.

Back on topic, I've never eaten at Pillars, but I have eaten in many restaurants on 3 different continents where the food was prepped by hand with no gloves, and never got sick. As long as the workers are even somewhat hygenic, it shouldn't be an issue to anyone with a working immune system. Of course, The story could be vastly different if someone is immunocomprimised, so "somewhat" doesn't always cut it.

Originally Posted by lorend

Because religion and sexual orientation have nothing to do with food preparation. Users also considered the argument very offensive.

I was actually about to re-remind users after I noticed my previous post was contributing to another de-rail.

Soooo once again, unless this conversation can go back to the initial topic it will be closed.

Yeah, maybe we should start another thread about the vaccines and such, if discussion is still going