I'm not putting vegetarans down though... the more of you there are, the more meat there is for me!

Originally Posted by Jay

This is off-topic. If you want to talk about vegetarianism, please do it in another thread.

Calm down... threads go off topic all the time

Originally Posted by Jay

This is off-topic. If you want to talk about vegetarianism, please do it in another thread.

Well, vegetarian is kind of related to this thread... it is now that I mention:

Bridges is the vegetarian campus food provider. I like there soy nuggets ^-^

Originally Posted by Taunton

Calm down... threads go off topic all the time

LOL. I am calm.

Danielle (lorend) just wanted us IAs to prevent things from going off-topic.

This has evolved from places on campus that don't accept the meal plan/student card to vegetarianism :|

Originally Posted by Jay

LOL. I am calm.

Danielle (lorend) just wanted us IAs to prevent things from going off-topic.

This has evolved form meal plan/student card to vegetarianism :|

Yes, I know we're all supposed to try to keep things on-topic... it's impossible to do that perfectly though, and sometimes people don't want to throughly discuss the offshooting topic, so if it's transferred to a new thread, it dies...

It's an inherent problem with the traditional message board system... something Google Wave will likely fix.

Originally Posted by Jay

LOL. I am calm.

Danielle (lorend) just wanted us IAs to prevent things from going off-topic.

This has evolved from places on campus that don't accept the meal plan/student card to vegetarianism :|

But everything relates back to food XD.

Originally Posted by syaseen

But everything relates back to food XD.

That's like saying a post about manufacturing globes isn't off-topic on thread about going to the washroom.

Globe is made --> ends up decomposing eventually --> decomposer is eaten by small animal --> small animal is eaten by a human --> human gets a stomach ache from eating the animal --> has to go the washroom.

Technically it's on topic because it relates back to going to the washroom. But, it's definitely a stretch.

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Yes, I know we're all supposed to try to keep things on-topic... it's impossible to do that perfectly though, and sometimes people don't want to throughly discuss the offshooting topic, so if it's transferred to a new thread, it dies...

Understandable, however, there are people who made this thread because they are curious about what places don't accept the meal plan. Having to filter through multiple posts of irrelevant information is annoying.

Originally Posted by jhan523

Bridges is the vegetarian campus food provider. I like there soy nuggets ^-^

Bridges is hands down the tastiest place to eat on campus and I'm not even a vegetarian. I'd take their chili any day over chili w/ real meat except maybe Tim Horton's chili and their soy chicken nuggets and sweet potato fries are my favourite thing. Sooooo good and I'm a huge fan of real chicken but I really like the soy stuff.

Originally Posted by Jay

From "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD

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Anyways:

This is off-topic. If you want to talk about vegetarianism, please do it in another thread.

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Some people enjoy being vegetarian for health/ethical/personal choice. Some people enjoy eating meat for health/ethical/personal choices. I think it's best if we just respected each others choices : )

If you can rebutt me, then I can rebutt you...

Firstly, a single source doesn't change my opinion. I've read much of the opposite, especially the length of the intestines/colon.

Regardless, humans cannot naturally acquire a variety of proteins, vitamins, minerals and fats without an omnivorous diet of some kind. Without supplements, a purely vegetarian/vegan diet doesn't supply all the required nutrients. Since supplements are unnatural, the only other option is to consume some sort of animal products (this is why there are more ovo-laco vegetarians than vegans... I don't think I've ever met a healthy looking vegan).

Finally, if humans weren't meant to eat meat, then we wouldn't be capable of eating meat... we're omnivores, not obligate herbivores.

/end discussion

Since you seem to want to continue this,

Originally Posted by Taunton

Without supplements, a purely vegetarian/vegan diet doesn't supply all the required nutrients. Since supplements are unnatural, the only other option is to consume some sort of animal products (this is why there are more ovo-laco vegetarians than vegans... I don't think I've ever met a healthy looking vegan).

It's more difficult to get all the required nutrients, yes, but it's definitely possible. Obviously if you're an unhealthy vegetarian, then you won't get the required nutrients. The same applies to unhealthy omnivores/carnivores.

B12 - many types of soy milk and tofu have it
Iron - it's more difficult to absorb non-heme iron, but if you're smart you'll have an acidic component (ex: lime juice, orange juice) with dark leafy vegetables to help absorb it. Many breads and cereals are high in iron as well.
Calcium - I'm lactose intolerant, but there's calcium in soy milk and in foods such as broccoli.

As for essential amino acids, but eating a variety of vegetables and beans you can obtain all of the essential amino acids - I checked when i did my 2A03 lab. Most North American diets have too much protein anyways.

It's definitely possible to be a healthy vegan/vegetarian.

Originally Posted by Jay

B12 - many types of soy milk and tofu have it

I'm not a vegetarian but I have low B12 and will have to get a monthly shot if I don't boost my levels soon. Can you recommend any specific brands of soy milk that have a lot of B12? Also can that information be found on the label.

I might try out soy milk if it would help be avoid getting monthly shots.

Originally Posted by sew12

I'm not a vegetarian but I have low B12 and will have to get a monthly shot if I don't boost my levels soon. Can you recommend any specific brands of soy milk that have a lot of B12? Also can that information be found on the label.

I might try out soy milk if it would help be avoid getting monthly shots.

For healthy drinks they make it a point to label how much vitamins your getting

Originally Posted by sew12

I'm not a vegetarian but I have low B12 and will have to get a monthly shot if I don't boost my levels soon. Can you recommend any specific brands of soy milk that have a lot of B12? Also can that information be found on the label.

I might try out soy milk if it would help be avoid getting monthly shots.

According to the UK Vegan Society, B12 present in plants is unavailable to the human digestive system. The best natural way to get B12 is via shellfish and liver.

http://www.vegansociety.com/food/nutrition/b12/

Originally Posted by sew12

I'm not a vegetarian but I have low B12 and will have to get a monthly shot if I don't boost my levels soon. Can you recommend any specific brands of soy milk that have a lot of B12? Also can that information be found on the label.

I might try out soy milk if it would help be avoid getting monthly shots.

If you are not a vegetarian you could just drink normal milk and eat it's by products like cheese and yogurt.

I'm not a vegetarian but I have low B12 and will have to get a monthly shot if I don't boost my levels soon. Can you recommend any specific brands of soy milk that have a lot of B12? Also can that information be found on the label.

I might try out soy milk if it would help be avoid getting monthly shots.

A cup of Silk Soymilk, probably one of the better tasting ones, provides 50% of the recommended amount of B12.

Originally Posted by Taunton

According to the UK Vegan Society, B12 present in plants is unavailable to the human digestive system. The best natural way to get B12 is via shellfish and liver.

http://www.vegansociety.com/food/nutrition/b12/

B12 can be obtained through microorganisms (such as nutritional yeast), while this probably isn't ideal for people who are vegan, it's incredibly difficult to maintain a 100% vegan lifestyle (chewing your food causes you to consume bacteria, anyways).

Most soy products and cereals are fortified with B12, which is how most vegetarians obtain it. If you have an issue with fortification, I'd advise that you stop consuming anything that contains white flour, such as delicious cakes : )