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I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't have vehicles... I mean, they want cars and houses and stuff, but they can't afford them...
...because they're students.
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What I don't get is: apparently the Main Street entrance into the campus is open to residence students.
That's great and all. But why only for residence? Shouldn't ALL students be allowed to use that entrance?
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11-05-2009 at 09:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't have vehicles... I mean, they want cars and houses and stuff, but they can't afford them...
...because they're students.
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And I would bet ya that grad students who DO have cars have an external scholarship supporting them, and are less likely to support the strike as they would be making significantly more money then those who do not have external scholarships. They are probably significantly more likely to cross the lines.
But hey, if you want to come to my place and block me in, all the power to you. I don't live anywhere near campus (and a ways from Hamilton also) so....good luck!
Also, let the university know of your anger towards the strike. I'm sure they'd love to hear about how the strike is pissing off students, seeing as they really care about them. |
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Nice assumption, show me a source.
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I don't have a source, but I have more anecdotal evidence then necessary to prove his point.
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11-05-2009 at 09:17 PM
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What I don't get is: apparently the Main Street entrance into the campus is open to residence students.
That's great and all. But why only for residence? Shouldn't ALL students be allowed to use that entrance?
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Either has to do with something against blocking people from getting to their place of residence, or just the picketers/university/CUPE/whoever the hell makes the decision being considerate to those who live on campus. |
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1) If you actually read these threads, you'd know that I'm extremely anti-strike.
2) You need a source to know that most students can't afford the expenses of a car? Get over yourself.
3) I walk to school, and in fact I walk on and off campus through an area that is completely undisrupted by the strike. If it wasn't for my interest in being involved with my school and campus, I would be virtually unaffected by this strike.
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11-05-2009 at 09:18 PM
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I don't have a source, but I have more anecdotal evidence then necessary to prove his point.
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I was a student who owned a car and a house. Still am. err? point proven. Looks like we have a lot of pro strikers here. Guess a lot of you guys like to waist your time. |
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I was a student who owned a car and a house. Still am. err? point proven.
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You are what is called an outlier.
Most students can't afford to own a house and a car.
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What I don't get is: apparently the Main Street entrance into the campus is open to residence students.
That's great and all. But why only for residence? Shouldn't ALL students be allowed to use that entrance?
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I wasn't aware of the Main St. entrance situation. If I had to take a guess though, I believe the picketing is supposed to be at the "work place". For the res. students this also happen to be their home thus the exclusion? |
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I was a student who owned a car and a house. Still am. err? point proven.
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No, not point proven. That's like saying "I like bananas, therefore everyone likes bananas. QED". You are an exception to the rule, not the rule. Most of the grad students I know either a) don't own a car or house or b) if they DO own a car, they leave it at home and get to school via another mode.
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11-05-2009 at 09:24 PM
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You are what is called an outlier.
Most students can't afford to own a house and a car.
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Kinda off topic but lets narrow it down to our specific audience. TAs and RAs are the students in this discussion. Age range early 30s late 20s. Some probably have families. These "students" are graduate students or PHD students who either have had experience/work in their field or are working currently plus are employed by Mac part time.
This specific audience is going to be residence and vehicle free? I gotta get into money management.
I have work to go do, have fun.
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Kinda off topic but lets narrow it down to our specific audience. TAs and RAs are the students in this discussion. Age range early 30s late 20s. Some probably have families. These "students" are graduate studetns or PHD students who either have had experience/work in their field or are working currently plus are employed by Mac part time.
This specific audience is going to be residence and vehicle free?
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I would argue that most graduate students are under the age of 30. You figure the average age you start is 22/23, you do 6-7 years (2 years of master's, 4 year's of a ph.d) puts you between 28-30 when you finish.
A lot still rent, a lot choose not to buy a car for various reasons, or cannot afford a car.
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Before we start splitting hair all night long, I think the spirit of the original argument was not about who can afford what, but that the TA/RAs that are in the departments where things are much better off for them probably showed more indifference towards the strike and are not the ones out there picketing.
Rcole23:
If you come on campus in the evenings, you can explore street parking or, the school might be more accommodating with the parking situations now and you may be granted roaming privilege and be able to park on the Ward lot.
I know that this doesn't seem ideal and you are upset and frustrated at being delayed, but do keep in mind that the picketers are acting in the confines of law, and urge you to make sure that you are too in voicing your frustration.
Also, maybe you know some grad students that are in the situations you described, but that is pretty far from the case for a typical (and thus majority) of the graduate students.
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I wasn't aware of the Main St. entrance situation. If I had to take a guess though, I believe the picketing is supposed to be at the "work place". For the res. students this also happen to be their home thus the exclusion?
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But for 25,000 students, this is their school; not their work place.
As for CUPE being "considerate" for rez students like another commenter said: what is the difference between a student driving to rez or a student driving to school? We are all students and we all have places to go. |
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