Oh right, I forgot there are different types of competition. I like the friendly competitions. ^-^

I can't believe someone would go as far as to sabotage someone else's project. That's just unreasonable. You shouldn't let competition drive you to become like that. What do you gain from that? Oh wow, you did the best good job. It's not like you won millions of dollars, but I'm not saying that if that is the prize that you are allowed to sabotage. It should never be done.

I like friendly competition because we still help one another, so it doesn't have any harm on anyone. ^-^

You know in UofT, people get so competitive since it's a large school that they will resort to pulling assignments out of the drop boxes, copying them, and then burning the original so no one knows they copied it?

Originally Posted by Mowicz

You know in UofT, people get so competitive since it's a large school that they will resort to pulling assignments out of the drop boxes, copying them, and then burning the original so no one knows they copied it?

I really want to call BS on that. First off, you don't submit your assignment into the dropbox until the day it's due (usually a few hours if not minutes before the deadline). That means someone would have to go to the dropbox basically hours/minutes before the deadline, and have to pull the assignment out with the potential for other people in the class to just walk by and catch them in the act.

THEN, if that goes well, he/she still needs to find a way to copy the assignment and get it back into the dropbox by the deadline. Seems like it's less work to just do the assignment yourself. Less chance to get expelled too.

Yeah... that seems kind of outrageous...

Originally Posted by PTGregD

I really want to call BS on that. First off, you don't submit your assignment into the dropbox until the day it's due (usually a few hours if not minutes before the deadline).

Well no, I'd actually like to call BS on that. I, as one example, regularly hand in my assignments days before they're due (if I have the option of using a drop box), and since UofT is such a large school there are always people who hand theirs in as such also.

It is just heresay (I heard it from someone who attended, they allegedly witnessed someone trying to do exactly that, reported it and they got in some sort of trouble. I do trust this source however, so I'm convinced, but whether or not you trust me that well is a different story :p and I realize that).

Whether true or fale, it's naive to assume 4000+ students pile up 5 minutes before the deadline and hand in their Introductory level Calculus assignments...so it's not as 'unreal' as your post makes it seem, since it isn't done within the last 5 minutes or something like that (Remember...UofT is a very different environment from McMaster. UofT is classified as a 'large' university, and Mac is relatively small).

Originally Posted by PTGregD

I really want to call BS on that. First off, you don't submit your assignment into the dropbox until the day it's due (usually a few hours if not minutes before the deadline). That means someone would have to go to the dropbox basically hours/minutes before the deadline, and have to pull the assignment out with the potential for other people in the class to just walk by and catch them in the act.

THEN, if that goes well, he/she still needs to find a way to copy the assignment and get it back into the dropbox by the deadline. Seems like it's less work to just do the assignment yourself. Less chance to get expelled too.

My friends at UofT have complained that they can't find what they need in their textbooks because people have ripped out the pages.

And my friend's brother (who graduated probably about 7-8 years ago now) said in one of his first year classes the prof said "Half of you will be failing by midterm, and the other half of you will fail after the final exam".

So glad I didn't go there.

Originally Posted by lorend

My friends at UofT have complained that they can't find what they need in their textbooks because people have ripped out the pages.

And my friend's brother (who graduated probably about 7-8 years ago now) said in one of his first year classes the prof said "Half of you will be failing by midterm, and the other half of you will fail after the final exam".

So glad I didn't go there.

Ripping textbook pages? WOW lol that's a rumor I heard about Schulich Buisness (b/c top ten percent, or something like that ) of the graduating class get a great job right away.

LOL we're so offtopic now.

Originally Posted by lorend

"Half of you will be failing by midterm, and the other half of you will fail after the final exam".

I wonder why that sounds so familiar... Oh yeah.



First year Eng.

1) Physical Sciences
2) Rez
3) Oh hell yes! Especially after three, umm... victory laps I am so sick of living in my parents house.

Originally Posted by PTGregD

I really want to call BS on that. First off, you don't submit your assignment into the dropbox until the day it's due (usually a few hours if not minutes before the deadline).

Contrary to what Mowicz says, I agree with this. I would never hand in anything that early on the grounds that I like reviewing my assignments multiple times before I hand it in. Most people are the same way (or at least really procrastinate :p).

On another note, how do you get an assignment out of the drop box? I mean; I guess if the box is really packed, you could maybe get the top one out, but what says it's going to be any good? For that situation to happen, you would have to wait for it to be close to the deadline to become that full. The alternative I guess would be attaching a chewed up piece of gum to a string and "fishing" it out... something that would be ridiculously hard to do without being noticed.

Burning it seems to be taking it a bit far too. Burned paper is far more noticeable than a shredded paper.

Originally Posted by MrFryingFish

1) Physical Sciences
2) Rez
3) Oh hell yes! Especially after three, umm... victory laps I am so sick of living in my parents house.

YAY for getting for forum back on track!

Originally Posted by Ownaginatios

Contrary to what Mowicz says, I agree with this. I would never hand in anything that early on the grounds that I like reviewing my assignments multiple times before I hand it in. Most people are the same way (or at least really procrastinate :p).

Old habits die hard.

Guess I'll just drop it, you can believe what you want, but procrastination is not a good thing, and should not be the anticipated norm. Shame on you guys.

Originally Posted by Mowicz

procrastination is not a good thing, and should not be the anticipated norm. Shame on you guys.

Hard work pays off later. :(

Laziness pays off now.

lol. You know what else pays off now but not in the long run? Not doing your work, and stealing someone else's assignment :p

I'm kinda dumb like this...I need to explain!

It's all mathematics...if 1 out of every 200 people behaves as they should in an ideal circumstance and completes their work well in advance...even 2 days early, then 20 assignments are in the box in a class of 4000 students (and I believe this is a gross underestimate).

Given the 2 days, one could go in during the late hours of the day when there isn't much traffic and fish it out (this is in keeping with the same theme as the case my friend told me about). As for the mechanics of how it's done, I don't know it isn't like I do this regularly or anything haha.

Bear in mind...that since my friend did catch the person (I think he said it was 2 people) and reported suspicious behaviour, then it's not like it's a failsafe method.


And as for burning it, if paper is burned then all evidence is lost. Naturally, it seems the ideal choice of cover up, since shredded paper is still evidence.