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Old 10-29-2010 at 04:01 PM   #16
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if (legs=lives){
option=1;
else{
subdural_hemmorage=1;
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Old 10-29-2010 at 09:32 PM   #17
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I think you're over-complicating it a tad. You might be caught up because (3) says "both (2) and (3) are correct". Suppose we had some answer (c) that said "both (a) and (b) are correct" - this is a pretty standard answer, and we wouldn't really question it in the same way. However, because that particular (3) asserts itself, you think there'll be an infinite loop. When you think about it, though, every possible choice asserts this implicitly (that is "I am correct"). From our previous example, including the implicit premise, (c) would assert "(a), (b), and (c) are all true".
Now, by what we outlined above, both (2) and (3) are "recursive" by your criterion (that is, a statement that asserts that it is true, but of course, in this context, that applies for all statements). In other words, what I'm trying to get through is that there's nothing "special" about (3), it's just that it states "I am correct" explicitly, while the other choices have "I am true" as an enthymeme.

Logically speaking, there's nothing "loopy" about a statement that asserts that it is true. Why? Well, let's assume that there is a loop. If you accept the nth statement in the loop as true, then we know that we'll just end up accepting the (n+1)th statement in the loop as true as well (this is because it asserts that it itself is true). So, since we know this, we can "inductively" (if you read this, Mowicz, forgive me for my informal proof ) reason that whatever n we pick, we'll end up with the same conclusion - namely, that the statement asserts itself as true. So, it's not a loop - it's just an infinite affirmation, if you like.

Now, as xxsumz said, it's another story entirely for statements of the form "I am false". That's the Epimenides paradox, and it's dangerous stuff, haha.
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After seeing option 2, why would anyone even look at the others?

I'm actually laughing at how complicated people are making this
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Old 10-30-2010 at 08:57 AM   #19
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After seeing option 2, why would anyone even look at the others?

I'm actually laughing at how complicated people are making this
I think the OP's point in posting isn't to "get the right answer", but to think about the implications of choosing particular options. I think he mentioned that a couple of times, actually.
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I found a cat with 6 legs, does that count for anything?


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I think the OP's point in posting isn't to "get the right answer", but to think about the implications of choosing particular options. I think he mentioned that a couple of times, actually.
As a side note....thanks for actually getting my gender right without me having to tell you .


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As a side note....thanks for actually getting my gender right without me having to tell you .


Do people assume you're a girl because of the avatar? Your name is fully not a girl's name. Or doesn't sound like one to me, atleast
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Do people assume you're a girl because of the avatar? Your name is fully not a girl's name. Or doesn't sound like one to me, atleast
Yea...because of the avatar. They don't even bother to look at my name. Happened 3 times already .
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Yea...because of the avatar. They don't even bother to look at my name. Happened 3 times already .

In that case, I'd love for people to assume I look like my avatar. How cool would it be to look like the blue smarties cat?
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Yea...because of the avatar. They don't even bother to look at my name. Happened 3 times already .
You should really just change your avatar to avoid all these posts about whether you're a male or female. It would save everyone time.
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As a side note....thanks for actually getting my gender right without me having to tell you .

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Ahah, hopefully my post cleared the situation up a bit. If you're interested in this stuff, look into logic. There's a gentle introduction in the philosophy department (2B03). Alternatively, you could take mathematical logic, but that would require quite a bit more commitment.
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