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Old 10-23-2010 at 06:47 PM   #1
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upper year Commerce Students help
Im unsure as to how majors within the commerce department work and what courses i have to take to obtain these specializations. Im currently in second year and i would like to graduate with a specialization in both finance and accounting. What do i need to do to obtain both of these specializations and graduate in 2013. What courses should i take in the summer?
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Old 10-23-2010 at 06:53 PM   #2
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Talk to the academic advisor from the business faculty...?

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Or wait for jhan523 to answer this.
Old 10-23-2010 at 06:56 PM   #3
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You just take whatever you want to focus in; there's is no "major" since everyone just gets a (H)Bachelor of Commerce. So if you want to focus in accounting/finance, just take as many of those courses as you want/can. ie. If you want accounting "major", take the 3rd and 4th year accouting courses, but you'll still only get the (H)B.Com.
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You just take whatever you want to focus in; there's is no "major" since everyone just gets a (H)Bachelor of Commerce. So if you want to focus in accounting/finance, just take as many of those courses as you want/can. ie. If you want accounting "major", take the 3rd and 4th year accouting courses, but you'll still only get the (H)B.Com.
i get that but i want to be able to apply to both finance jobs and accounting jobs, so id assume that i need to have specializations in both.
Old 10-23-2010 at 07:06 PM   #5
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i get that but i want to be able to apply to both finance jobs and accounting jobs, so id assume that i need to have specializations in both.
You don't do squat about the specializations; it's all based on what you take. On your resume, you just state your focus (your commerce electives) and that's it. The focus acts as the specializations. Just show them your transcript showing what you took as a majority of your electives if they want to know.

For let's say CA designation, you take the 3rd and 4th year accounting courses, some econ, finance and taxing and some other stuff on the ICAO site. If you want specifics, you'll need to know what designation you want to pursue. Other than that it's just a degree with a "focus".

In other words, if you want a true specialization, Mac was not a good choice.

Edit: and also, the employers don't care if you're specialized or not on the degree; they will know if you're fit for the job with your transcript and resume Just remember that they are looking for fully qualified prospectives and do not choose with just the major.

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You can't do squat about the specializations; it's all based on what you take. On your resume, you just state your focus (your commerce electives) and that's it. The focus acts as the specializations. Just show them your transcript showing what you took as a majority of your electives.

For let's say CA designation, you take the 3rd and 4th year accounting courses, some econ, finance and taxing and some other stuff on the ICAO site. If you want specifics, you'll need to know what designation you want to pursue. Other than that it's just a degree with a "focus".

In other words, if you want a specialization, Mac was not a good choice.

Edit: and also, the employers don't care if you're specialized or not on the degree; they will know if you're fit for the job with your transcript. Just remember that they are looking for fully qualified prospectives not just by the major.
Ok i guess ill take courses that allow me to apply both for a CA and a CFA. Also im curious how difficult it is to get an internship and how one should distinguish oneself from other candidates. I have a 10.9 average and all of my marks this term have been in the high 80s, low 90s except for accounting only got a 70 on the first mid term.
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Ok i guess ill take courses that allow me to apply both for a CA and a CFA. Also im curious how difficult it is to get an internship and how one should distinguish oneself from other candidates. I have a 10.9 average and all of my marks this term have been in the high 80s, low 90s except for accounting only got a 70 on the first mid term.
Just have to remember that marks isn't everything. You can get 12s but still not get the job because you don't present yourself well during the interview, can't "connect" with the interviewer or by not doing anything during undergrad.

Every employer will want a well-rounded student that can lead, work efficiently/effectively and can contribute value to the corporation. So you have to demonstrate that during university by being in leading roles in clubs, joining teams, volunteering, contributing to the community, etc.
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Just have to remember that marks isn't everything. You can get 12s but still not get the job because you don't present yourself well during the interview, can't "connect" with the interviewer or by not doing anything during undergrad.

Every employer will want a well-rounded student that can lead, work efficiently/effectively and can contribute value to the corporation. So you have to demonstrate that during university by being in leading roles in clubs, joining teams, volunteering, contributing to the community, etc.
Awesome, the only thing im lacking in is the volunteering, ill start working on that this year.
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Finance AND Accounting? Totally unnecessary man, you'll want to kill yourself. Do accounting, and go for your CA or CFA. You'll cover all the bases and you can still come back for your MBA in Finance. Far better approach.
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If your pursuing an accounting designation, you will not have enough any left over courses to take any finance courses. Unfortunately you have to do one or the other.
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Oh don't worry -- 2AA3 is a hard class. Wait until 2AB3, then make your decision. Getting a CA isn't difficult, just some courses and a test to get your designation. Talk to the advisor.
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If you're interested in taking upper-year Finance and Accounting courses, what you want to do is take 'business electives' in those respected fields. In the Honors stream, you have to take 9 business elective credits 3rd year and another 9 in 4th year. This gives you 6 courses to choose from overall. These courses have to be 3rd or 4th year business courses that are not mandatory. You can take 4th year courses in 3rd year and vice versa.

Check out the course calendar, talk to upper-year students and profs, read the course outlines (Accounting and Finance), and then it all comes down to beating SOLAR!
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