Originally Posted by mcmastergcdb

lol Dude. This is the truth though. The new stuff he is bringing out is just to stay relevant. Since The black album, he has been on all time low. Blueprint 3 was 80% featured. Hes blabbering about being best all the time...hes not even close second. May be the best businessman in the rap game but not mc!

And I don't even know who gave em the right to bash auto tune lol. It's almost as bad as soulja boy rappin with snoop dogg. Go figure lol

Somebody needed to say some **** about all the autotune we're hearing these days. When the kids that we were (past tense) expecting to inherit the game, like Drake, are now almost only putting out shit autotuned tracks, someone needed to say something.

Anyway, Jay should've retired after Black Album like he planned to, but that doesn't mean he isn't one of the best to have ever been in the game; does the fact Nas, Snoop, and Em have a few **** albums take away from the fact that they're some of the best in the game?

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/indier..._top_50_albums

Here are my top 20 from that list:

20. Radiohead-OK Computer
19. Wilco-Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
18. Sleater-Kinney-The Woods
17. Elliott Smith-Either/Or
16. Godspeed You Black Emperor!-Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
15. Sigur Ros-Agaetis Byrjun
14. Fiona Apple-Extraordinary Machine (Bootleg version)
13. Arcade Fire-Funeral
12. Neutral Milk Hotel-In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
11. Broken Social Scene-Broken Social Scene
10. Sonic Youth-Daydream Nation
9. Sufjan Stevens-Illinois
8. Bjork-Vespertine
7. The Velvet Underground and Nico
6. Joanna Newsom-Ys
5. PJ Harvey-Is This Desire?
4. Cat Power-Moon Pix
3. Broken Social Scene-You Forgot it in People
2. Stars-Set Yourself on Fire
1. My Bloody Valentine-Loveless

Originally Posted by huzaifa47

Ten-Pearl Jam

You just reminded me how I just cannot get into Pearl Jam. I just can't. *shrugs*

Originally Posted by JasonMcGuirk

Euphoria Morning - Chris Cornell
Beautiful Midnight - Matthew Good Band
Avalanche - Matthew Good
Temple of The Dog - Temple of The Dog

I was expecting a Radiohead album somewhere considering your signature.

Originally Posted by jamescw1234

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/indier..._top_50_albums

Sweet...though the only album I share with you right now is Radiohead's OK Computer. XD Will be checking some of the others out. Just wondering do you buy vinyls in store or online, and how much did Loveless cost you? And Sleater-Kinney broke up too soon...

I buy my vinyls at stores. Cheapies or Dr. Disc in Hamilton, but every two or three months I'll go down to Queen St. in Toronto. There's Rotate This! Criminal Records. I also like to check out Soundscapes in Little Italy. I got Loveless at Rotate This, I think it was about 22 bucks.

Originally Posted by jamescw1234

I buy my vinyls at stores. Cheapies or Dr. Disc in Hamilton, but every two or three months I'll go down to Queen St. in Toronto. There's Rotate This! Criminal Records. I also like to check out Soundscapes in Little Italy. I got Loveless at Rotate This, I think it was about 22 bucks.

I've only visited Cheapies and they didn't have what I was looking for. I'll be visiting the ones you've mentioned, thanks. One more question, do you know where to get cheap turntables at? The ones I see are usually in the hundreds. My dad destroyed our retro one...

No idea, I'd suggest looking either online or electronic stores that specialize in audio/video. Wish I could be of more help

Originally Posted by Tailsnake

Somebody needed to say some **** about all the autotune we're hearing these days. When even the kids that we were (past tense) expecting to inherit the game, like Drake, are now almost only putting out shitting autotuned, someone needs to say something.

Anyway, Jay should've retired after Black Album like he planned to, but that doesn't mean he isn't one of the best to have ever been in the game, or does the fact Nas, Snoop, and Em have a few **** albums take away from the fact that they're some of the best in the game?

yea man I hear you...only T-Pain shouldve used autotune. Now everybody is using it and it's getting annoying. There had to be someone to confront autotune, but it wasn't Jay-z. It was KRS-One...he came out with a single called "Robot" months before Jay-Z. But, Jay-Z took the whole idea and brought it in mainstream, since hes a commercial rapper and w/o giving any credits. There is an interview on this issue.

This wasn't the first time Jay-z has bit off of other rappers though. Even Nas dissed him about stealing the name of his album "Blueprint". I agree with you that Nas, Snoop and Em are legends. But I don't have that respect for Jay-z.

some of mine, off the top of my head:

Pablo Honey - Radiohead
BloodSugarSexMagic - RHCP
Californication - RHCP
Abbey Road - The Beatles
Magical Mystery Tour - The Beatles
The Beatles (aka White Album) - The Beatles
Dookie - Green Day
Use Your illusion II - Guns N Roses
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Led Zepplin IV - Led Zepplin
...And Justice for All - Metallica
Nevermind - Nirvana

autechre - Tri repetae
goslings - Full hunter's moon
swans - greed
lady gaga - the poker face one.....i like her videos....songs not really
slint - both albums
Have a Nice life - Deathconsciousness
Sunn O))) - Monoliths & dimensions. dunno, i prefer hearing their live stuff
Anything at all by Sun Ra and the Arkestra

i alsp like solo improv noise rock guys by like k k null, keith rowe

also i dont listen to much blues and stuff, but B.B king's live recording at cook county jail is just phenomenal!

yeah, thats all i can think of now.....just sstuff i been listening to nowadays

Originally Posted by Proxy

I was expecting a Radiohead album somewhere considering your signature.

Lol I figured a lot of people would recommend radiohead so I didn't bother. Although I really dig their new album "In Rainbows".

I don't know where your musical interest lie so it is hard to recommend albums. Also, those were just some off the top of my head and I'm sure you don't want huge lists from every user. It is much easy to skim through a few albums.

Here are some more:

John Frusciante - The Empyrean
My Morning Jacket - The Tennessee Fire
G. Love - Lemonade
The Tragically Hip - Fully Completely
Mad Season - Above
Pete Yorn - The Morning After

Anyways, I much prefer recommending songs then I can mix and match my favourites.

I could sit here and write for hours, but I'll slowly add a few here and there:

Strange Beautiful Music - Joe Satriani
Train of Thought - Dream Theater

Originally Posted by Proxy

And Sleater-Kinney broke up too soon...

Oh crap, I totally didn't see that last night! I agree, Sleater-Kinney was one of the greatest rock bands of all time. I just got into them last year and I would've killed to have seen them live. I think that ending with The Woods was a smart thing, it was their loudest and most abrasive album yet, so they really went out with a bang. And as a drummer, I really obsess over Janet Weiss, she's so badass.

Reinventing Axl Rose - Against Me!
As the Eternal Cowboy - Against Me!
Underground Network - Anti-Flag
The Empire Strikes First - Bad Religion
Colors - Between The Buried and Me
Miasma - The Black Dahlia Murder
A Weekend in the City - Bloc Party
Symbolic - Death
The '59 Sound - The Gaslight Anthem
Sink or Swim - The Gaslight Anthem
Live in a Dive - Lagwagon
Blood Mountain - Mastodon
Old World Underground, Where Are You Now? - Metric

Just a few off the top of my head....

THe Fragile [Left/Right]- Nine Inch Nails
Renegades- Rage Against The Machine
The Cool- Lupe Fiasco
Are you experienced?- The Jimmy Hendrix Experience
Abbey Road...or even the Number Ones album- The Beatles
Epiphany- T-Pain...thats right he made the list
Black Album- Jay Z
Daft Punk- Alive
Daft Punk- Discovery
Street Sweeper Social Club- Street Sweeper Social Club

thats a quick short list...i have more but too lazy to type it out haha

live through this - hole
siamese dream - the smashing pumpkins
nevermind - nirvana
superunknown - soundgarden (Not a chris cornell fan though!)
surfer rosa - pixies
pretty hate machine - nine inch nails
ten - pearl jam
disintegration - the cure
kaleidoscope - siouxsie and the banshees