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The Ontario Universities' Application Centre (OUAC) is reporting that more students accepted university programs this year than in any of the previous ten years.

87,096 students will be attending Ontario universities this fall. In 2005 there were 73,393 students, while in 2001 that number was only 55,910.

Even the double cohort year (2003) there were less students, at 84,685.

Guess that explains why first years are complaining that massive classes like Econ 1B03/1BB3 are already full.

I'd like to see the correlation between this with the # of dropouts. I suspect there is a linear relationship.

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how many total undergraduate students (both part time and full time) McMaster University has in 2010/2011. And if someone is really good, try to break it down by year :p

Thanks,

Cory

Ew universities are like factories these days. We should make sure there are decent jobs available when students graduate. But noooo, the university needs more money.

Originally Posted by jo87

Ew universities are like factories these days. We should make sure there are decent jobs available when students graduate. But noooo, the university needs more money.

I don't see how that makes any sense. How can the university make sure decent jobs are available upon graduation? I believe that's completely up to the economy...

And the university can't help it if it needs more money. The economy is still pretty crap and parts of the university cannot be maintained without additional funds (which it would normally otherwise get through grants .etc).

You know, a university degree used to mean something. Now you need two or three to get anywhere with all the competition.

But it's also good that a lot more people are going to school,,,so many jobs now need degrees here and degrees there just because of how many people apply.

Originally Posted by britb

You know, a university degree used to mean something. Now you need two or three to get anywhere with all the competition.

amen;;

Originally Posted by cory_1991

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how many total undergraduate students (both part time and full time) McMaster University has in 2010/2011. And if someone is really good, try to break it down by year :p

Thanks,

Cory

I dont think you will get that until later on in the year. They still are dealing with rescinding people's offer

Oh man, I just realized first year is probably gonna be super competitive this year.

Originally Posted by cjdzl

amen;;

That's actually pretty false.

University was never meant to get you a job. University is a place of higher learning. If you want to get a job, you need work skills: most of which aren't available through a place that focuses on academia and theory.

I'm not sure if anyone's familiar with Daniel Quinn (he wrote Ismael and quite a few other books), but he actually suggested that the purpose of education is to prevent people from entering the work force. The speech he gave that I linked to was actually talking more about when middle and high school became the norm, and started to touch on college (I don't have the date when it was given, but I assume it was a while ago).

While I would recommend taking some of what he says with a grain of salt, he makes some very cool points. Keeping people in school longer does an excellent job of keeping them out of the job market. And because what we learn is, almost always, completely useless it really doesn't have the effect of better preparing us for the work force. Most jobs that used to require just a high school education now require a degree- and I don't think its outrageous to think that eventually most jobs will require at least two.

I heavily recommend reading some books by him- they're very thought provoking.

Originally Posted by britb

You know, a university degree used to mean something. Now you need two or three to get anywhere with all the competition.

But it's also good that a lot more people are going to school,,,so many jobs now need degrees here and degrees there just because of how many people apply.

Quite true. I often hear the phrase, "It's just not enough to have a Bachelors anymore". Now, whether that is referring to post graduate studies or experience, I do not know. But I hear it from a lot of older folks. The truth to that however, I will have to see myself when I finish my program in a few years from now =p

Originally Posted by RoyK

Quite true. I often hear the phrase, "It's just not enough to have a Bachelors anymore". Now, whether that is referring to post graduate studies or experience, I do not know. But I hear it from a lot of older folks. The truth to that however, I will have to see myself when I finish my program in a few years from now =p

It's most likely academic related. The number of people that have bachelors is so large that it really isn't impressive to anyone anymore.

Originally Posted by Marlowe

I'm not sure if anyone's familiar with Daniel Quinn (he wrote Ismael and quite a few other books), but he actually suggested that the purpose of education is to prevent people from entering the work force. The speech he gave that I linked to was actually talking more about when middle and high school became the norm, and started to touch on college (I don't have the date when it was given, but I assume it was a while ago).

While I would recommend taking some of what he says with a grain of salt, he makes some very cool points. Keeping people in school longer does an excellent job of keeping them out of the job market. And because what we learn is, almost always, completely useless it really doesn't have the effect of better preparing us for the work force. Most jobs that used to require just a high school education now require a degree- and I don't think its outrageous to think that eventually most jobs will require at least two.

I heavily recommend reading some books by him- they're very thought provoking.

Oh god, Ishmael is a bunch of crap.

My opinion of course