*Warning Anger Rant* Seriously wtf, I see this asian mormon guy on campus everyday trying to recruit students while their walking to class, first time he talked to me i told him to read up on his religion before talking to me and the second time i told him to f*** off, does this piss anybody else off? tbh i'd prefer a homeless guy to approach me asking for money, at least he's not full of sh*t

Nice to know that mac is an open accepting space for everyone.... except Mormons...

Why do you seem so surprised? The religious aren't known for their dignity.
trollolollol.

I'll agree that I don't appreciate people trying to impose their religious beliefs on me, but I've never encountered any that persist once I say that I'm not interested. I've heard that some are pretty aggressive, but I've never seen it.

If you're going to complain about Mormons then complain about every other religion on campus At least be fair. We can't preach acceptance about other religions, cultures, race etc and then bash mormons

Originally Posted by jo87

If you're going to complain about Mormons then complain about every other religion on campus At least be fair. We can't preach acceptance about other religions, cultures, race etc and then bash mormons

And the secular humanists too. Them and their evil baked goods of doom.

Originally Posted by arathbon

Nice to know that mac is an open accepting space for everyone.... except Mormons...

don't worry, i hate christians too. like when campus for christ people try to preach jesus to you...that sh*t should be banned from campus

Originally Posted by ReDorkulateD

don't worry, i hate christians too. like when campus for christ people try to preach jesus to you...that sh*t should be banned from campus

Bye Bye freedom of speech. If you ain't an atheist then you better not open your mouth about your beliefs...

I'm aware that there may be some backlash from me saying this, but...

I feel like if an atheist group went around imposing their beliefs, it would be considered discrimination. In first year, a couple people from a religious group (I don't know which, as I didn't stop to converse with them) were standing outside of CNH talking about people being "hell bound" and that we're all living in sin. In my opinion, that's kind of excessive and inappropriate for a university that's supposed to be respectful of people's individual beliefs.

If an atheist group were to stand outside of a building and tell people to "get real" or quote Richard Dawkins, I feel like that would be considered discrimination because it isn't respectful of individuals' beliefs. If an agnostic group were to tell people to stop pretending they know anything, ditto.

I don't know, maybe there is a group that does it and I just haven't seen it. I have no problem accepting other peoples' beliefs, I just feel like there's kind of a double-standard there.

Originally Posted by arathbon

Bye Bye freedom of speech. If you ain't an atheist then you better not open your mouth about your beliefs...

see? it's not so hard right? it's not like if i get AIDS i'm going to go around throwing my blood at peoples wounds

I know who you are talking about...the asian guy with glasses with black clothing...I told him the same thing and he won't back off. They can't take "no" for an answer. I told him how I'm busy with school and stuffs and he wouldn't understand: sometimes, I wonder what is their real "motive".

I think some people are getting the wrong idea from the OP. He doesn't hate that this guy is of whatever religion - but he is recruiting students on campus. I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to do that.

I've seen this guy (he's usually with a blonde guy too) downtown and on the corner of Main and Emerson. They really don't leave people alone when they say "no". They've never talked to me but I've heard them talking to people at the bus stop and I can understand why they are so annoyed.

EDIT: Another point to add, I don't think they are from a university club or associated with Mac at all. They are just random guys from a church.

Originally Posted by jeboi7

I know who you are talking about...the asian guy with glasses with black clothing...I told him the same thing and he won't back off. They can't take "no" for an answer. I told him how I'm busy with school and stuffs and he wouldn't understand: sometimes, I wonder what is their real "motive".

If he won't leave you alone I would advise contacting someone at the University.

Originally Posted by alh24

I'm aware that there may be some backlash from me saying this, but...

I feel like if an atheist group went around imposing their beliefs, it would be considered discrimination. In first year, a couple people from a religious group (I don't know which, as I didn't stop to converse with them) were standing outside of CNH talking about people being "hell bound" and that we're all living in sin. In my opinion, that's kind of excessive and inappropriate for a university that's supposed to be respectful of people's individual beliefs.

If an atheist group were to stand outside of a building and tell people to "get real" or quote Richard Dawkins, I feel like that would be considered discrimination because it isn't respectful of individuals' beliefs. If an agnostic group were to tell people to stop pretending they know anything, ditto.

I don't know, maybe there is a group that does it and I just haven't seen it. I just feel like there's kind of a double-standard there.

I think there's a difference between freedom of speech and behavior that is harassing or demeaning. If someone crosses the line, then you should complain to the University. If someone is acting in a respectful manner then just say no thanks and move on.

Originally Posted by arathbon

I think there's a difference between freedom of speech and behavior that is harassing or demeaning. If someone crosses the line, then you should complain to the University. If someone is acting in a respectful manner then just say no thanks and move on.

I definitely don't have a problem with their freedom of speech. It just seems odd to me that these groups do it and everyone acts like it's annoying and nothing more, when really it seems like it borders on discrimination. Is there any policy on what these groups are allowed to do in terms of engaging the public?

As I said, I've never encountered anyone who came right up to me and refused to let me go without harassing me, just the group in first year who seemed to be targeting the crowd of people around CNH. By the sounds of it, though, it happens often.

EDIT: Sorry, I think I missed the point of what you were saying there. I wasn't trying to say that atheists groups should also be allowed to do what these religious groups are doing. I'm just saying that I think it's equally offensive if they do it as if atheists do it, which is something that I think is overlooked. It was more of a "does anyone else feel there's a double-standard here?" comment. As much as a Christian would find it offensive if an atheist group were to run them down and impose on their beliefs system, I find it somewhat offensive that a Christian organization is doing that same thing. I just feel like it would be considered more rude if the atheist did it.