MacInsiders Logo

Similar Threads
Article Article Starter Category Comments Last Post
Not Sure If Ive Paid Lol a.singh92 First-Year / Prospective Student Questions 10 09-01-2010 10:42 PM
How to tell if account is paid? Lessica First-Year / Prospective Student Questions 12 09-01-2010 03:41 PM
Will i lose my spot?? laura03125 Residence & Housing 4 07-01-2010 01:56 PM
What happens if you still haven't paid? Ownaginatios General Discussion 13 09-07-2009 09:31 PM
Getting Paid to to experiments? Mac12 First-Year / Prospective Student Questions 4 09-14-2008 02:42 PM

T.A's That Went On Strike Will Lose 10 Paid Hours

 
T.A's That Went On Strike Will Lose 10 Paid Hours

As expected, those who went on strike will lose money for the days they walked off the job. The latest e-mail from CUPE states that total will be 10 hours or 7.7% of the paid hours.

Quoted from e-mail from CUPE:

"Today your bargaining team regretfully signed the back to work protocol. In order to protect member’s rights as they return to work, we had no choice but to do so. Your bargaining team and executive are both shocked and deeply concerned by the contents of this protocol, which are unprecedented both at McMaster and in the sector. However, the employer was intractable in their position. We feel as though this protocol is punitive in nature and is a direct attack on the membership for showing your strength on the lines this week."

"...As of tomorrow (Wednesday, November 11), our unit will be back to work. You should report to work as usual."

"...The University Administration has decided that the period of the strike will be deemed as unpaid time. As such, any bargaining unit member who did not fill out a weekly verification of intent to work form will lose 7.7% of your paid hours for this term. For a 130 hour position, this represents a loss of 10 paid hours or approximately $350 after deductions."

DannyV, webzn, ~*Sara*~ all say thanks to Chad for this post.

adrian, Afzal like this.
Published by
Chad's Avatar
MacInsiders Founder/Admin
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 7,121

Article Tools

Deleted Post
Old 11-10-2009 at 08:35 PM   #2
PTGregD
Elite Member
Posts: 1,841

Thanked: 229 Times
Liked: 349 Times
Quote:
The University Administration has decided that the period of the strike will be deemed as unpaid time.


Duh? Seems pretty standard to me.
__________________
Gregory Darkeff
Alumni 2011 - Honors Commerce and Economics Minor
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 08:35 PM   #3
Katiekat
Member
Posts: 2

Thanked: 0 Times
Liked: 0 Times
Did CUPE expect members to be paid for not working?
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 08:38 PM   #4
Kathy2
Elite Member
Posts: 2,112

Thanked: 159 Times
Liked: 529 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Katiekat View Post
Did CUPE expect members to be paid for not working?
Apparently CUPE implied that when they were trying to convince TAs to vote "no" on the offer, and now they're trying to make it look like the university's fault.
 


Old 11-10-2009 at 08:39 PM   #5
DannyV
Elite Member
Posts: 893

Thanked: 97 Times
Liked: 207 Times
Quote:
T.A's That Went On Strike Lose 10 Paid Hours
TA's that didn't work lose a week's worth of pay.

Whatever happened to strike pay? Oh right it starts in week 2.
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 08:45 PM   #6
Katiekat
Member
Posts: 2

Thanked: 0 Times
Liked: 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathy2 View Post
Apparently CUPE implied that when they were trying to convince TAs to vote "no" on the offer, and now they're trying to make it look like the university's fault.
Ahh - makes sense from a very childish unit.

Don't raise my tuition
Give us more money for our benefits

AND pay us for not working!
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 08:53 PM   #7
webzn
Senior Member
Posts: 131

Thanked: 8 Times
Liked: 17 Times
I am very happy about this decision. To get paid for leaving your job is ludicrous and the tone in which the statement is written aims to make it seem like a punishment. The fact of the matter is, if you did not work, you do not get paid. That is how the world operates.

Frankly, if I don't show up for work, I don't get paid. The same should apply to TAs
__________________
Carl Karichian
Hons Life Science Level IV

 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:13 PM   #8
stevennevets
Senior Member
Posts: 292

Thanked: 39 Times
Liked: 36 Times
from the FAQ on scabbing, unit1strike.wordpress .com:

Quote:
What happens to my pay if I withdraw my services and support the strike

McMaster says:
“TAs who choose to participate in the strike will not be paid for each day of the strike. Pay will cease on the first day of the strike, for the duration of the strike. The amount of pay lost will be a function of the actual date that the strike commences, the duration of the strike, and the period during which the TA participated in the strike.”
...why is this news a surprise? or even news?
__________________
Steven Thompson
Chief Returning Officer, MSU (Elections)
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:20 PM   #9
Kathy2
Elite Member
Posts: 2,112

Thanked: 159 Times
Liked: 529 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by stevennevets View Post
from the FAQ on scabbing, unit1strike.wordpress .com:



...why is this news a surprise? or even news?
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a few TAs posted on here saying that CUPE was telling them they would get most of their normal pay even if they went on strike.
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:24 PM   #10
stevennevets
Senior Member
Posts: 292

Thanked: 39 Times
Liked: 36 Times
afterwards on the blog cupe talks about strike pay (given from them) and then strike pay from cupe national. I don't see why the University would ever pay workers for not doing their job...

it sucks they dont get paid, but I thought the union was supposed to deal with the strike pay?

Edit: source:

Quote:
If you are not working during the strike the employer can withhold your pay. [...]

CUPE 3906 and CUPE National have established strike funds to allow members supporting the strike to be paid at a monthly rate that is almost equivalent to TA/RA wages after taxes and other deductions. Strike pay is a maximum of $200/week and slightly more than $800/month for those who picket or do alternative duties for 20 hours per week. This $800/month is gross, take home pay. For most undergrad TAs, this is MORE than you are receiving at present.
__________________
Steven Thompson
Chief Returning Officer, MSU (Elections)

Last edited by stevennevets : 11-10-2009 at 09:27 PM.
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:26 PM   #11
webzn
Senior Member
Posts: 131

Thanked: 8 Times
Liked: 17 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathy2 View Post
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a few TAs posted on here saying that CUPE was telling them they would get most of their normal pay even if they went on strike.
I recall some posts which talked about how York got 90% of their pay back after returning from strike, and some people were talking about how that policy applied to undergrad TAs and not grad TAs that worked at Mac.
__________________
Carl Karichian
Hons Life Science Level IV
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:45 PM   #12
JustineA
Member
Posts: 14

Thanked: 1 Time
Liked: 0 Times
I might be mistaken, but what they may have been hoped was that TAs who were on strike would be allowed to make the hours up, allowing us to fulfill our full contracts.

For example, regardless of missing last week, it is feasible that there would be 10 hours of work that could be done (including, but not limited to the hour(s) we will spend reviewing the literature and lecture materials from the week we were on strike - in my case anyway).
__________________
Department of Philosophy
M.A Candidate

DannyV says thanks to JustineA for this post.
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 09:50 PM   #13
JustineA
Member
Posts: 14

Thanked: 1 Time
Liked: 0 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kathy2 View Post
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a few TAs posted on here saying that CUPE was telling them they would get most of their normal pay even if they went on strike.
It was mentioned as a possibility.
__________________
Department of Philosophy
M.A Candidate
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 10:01 PM   #14
Mowicz
Elite Member
Posts: 1,538

Thanked: 274 Times
Liked: 529 Times
Crap on a crutch, I should've... No wait, I did.


Just for the record, 10 hours is two weeks of pay...so essentially Mac is 'punishing' TAs who went on strike by counting 'Monday' as an entire week.
 
Old 11-10-2009 at 10:03 PM   #15
stevennevets
Senior Member
Posts: 292

Thanked: 39 Times
Liked: 36 Times
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustineA View Post
I might be mistaken, but what they may have been hoped was that TAs who were on strike would be allowed to make the hours up, allowing us to fulfill our full contracts.
makes sense. sucks that you can't, sorry, would be nice if they had let you.
__________________
Steven Thompson
Chief Returning Officer, MSU (Elections)
 



Article Tools Search this Article
Search this Article:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new articles
You may not post comments
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



McMaster University News and Information, Student-run Community, with topics ranging from Student Life, Advice, News, Events, and General Help.
Notice: The views and opinions expressed in this page are strictly those of the student(s) who authored the content. The contents of this page have not been reviewed or approved by McMaster University or the MSU (McMaster Students Union). Being a student-run community, all articles and discussion posts on MacInsiders are unofficial and it is therefore always recommended that you visit the official McMaster website for the most accurate up-to-date information.

Copyright © MacInsiders.com All Rights Reserved. No content can be re-used or re-published without permission. MacInsiders is a service of Fullerton Media Inc. | Created by Chad
Originally Powered by vBulletin®, Copyright © 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba vBulletin. All rights reserved. | Privacy | Terms