Don't expect an answer...it seems like most of the difficult questions have gone unanswered by Mr. Park.

Originally Posted by McIntyre

Don't expect an answer...it seems like most of the difficult questions have gone unanswered by Mr. Park.

Well, they obviously have more important duties to attend to like coming up with which annoying poptart to cover next.

Hey Guys! Although I'm sure you guys are not completely satisfied with Mr. Park's response time, today is the beginning of elections! He will surely get back to your as soon as the polls close tonight and respond to all your pressing questions. Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

I assure you, Mr. McIntyre, that he is not dodging hard questions, he just hasn't had a chance to respond as of yet. Your patience is welcomed and appreciated.

Originally Posted by McIntyre

Let's hope the general student body is as smart and engaged as it seems the majority of people here on MacInsiders are. Casey is not the answer by any means. Not only do I think he would do a poor job next year, but I've heard from many individuals considering running for Vice-President positions, applying for Part-Time Manager positions or even just working for the MSU that they would not work for an MSU led by Casey. These election results affect a lot more than just who is in the position of President, and I hope students can make the right decision.

If this is the case, then perhaps you have to question the motives of these individuals considering running for VP positions. If they are not willing to work for a president who was elected by the students, than perhaps they are not in it for the students at all, and are really just in it for themselves.

Originally Posted by Werd

If this is the case, then perhaps you have to question the motives of these individuals considering running for VP positions. If they are not willing to work for a president who was elected by the students, than perhaps they are not in it for the students at all, and are really just in it for themselves.

Just b/c someone gets elected doesn't mean they're the best person for the job.

Voter turnouts for MSU elections are at an all time low, students just don't care so the vote can often come down to campaign tactics, and getting people to vote for you but not necessarily based on you best the best candidate, or having the best platform.

If this were the federal government and XYZ said they don't watch to work for the government b/c Harper was elected that doesn't mean they aren't in it for Canadians, it means they disagree with Mr. Harper's politics and aren't interested in working under him.

Originally Posted by sew12

Just b/c someone gets elected doesn't mean they're the best person for the job.

Voter turnouts for MSU elections are at an all time low, students just don't care so the vote can often come down to campaign tactics, and getting people to vote for you but not necessarily based on you best the best candidate, or having the best platform.

If this were the federal government and XYZ said they don't watch to work for the government b/c Harper was elected that doesn't mean they aren't in it for Canadians, it means they disagree with Mr. Harper's politics and aren't interested in working under him.

Interesting point. If I were in the case of those interested in running for a VP position however, and someone I disagreed with was elected as President, it would give me all the more reason to run because than I would have more of an opportunity to change the things that I disliked, and that's personally what I believe someone who was in it for the students would do.

On a side note, I am a little upset over all the post's (and I have seen quite a few now) claiming that if x is elected than its because of cheap campaign tactics, flashy campaigns etc. All of these accusations are based on the assumption that McMaster students are not smart, which I for one disagree with.

There is a difference between cheap campaign tactics and still full out campaigning during the election time though... Some people told me that on top of seeing a certain candidate (that I wont name here because I will have my virtual head ripped off) campainging for himself outside, they also had this certain candidate make an appearance in their class to tell them to vote for him... I mean, come on! This DOES influence the vote massively: When people are told to go vote on the same day, you will get hundreds of voters to turnout just to vote for that one person when they otherwise wouldn't have voted... This DOES influence the election significantly: Those who are uninformed and have not been following are in a sense "peer pressured" to go vote for a specific person.

Interesting point Mike, and I don't disagree, people are sometimes pressured by their peers, it's human nature. However, I don't think its fair that 90% of the attacks on this tactic are based on one candidate. So far today, I walked through the student centre, got confronted by some individuals holding signs in the air chanting for one candidate, a brochure-esque piece of paper handed to me from the team of another candidate, a group of individuals in my residence lobby from another campaign team asking students to vote for their candidate, etc. Every single candidate has used campaign tactics beyond the basic "heres my platform, if you like it than vote for me". We have seen it in everything ranging from having the doors being help open for us, being handed campaign paraphenalia that has nothing to do with the platform, eye candy websites, you name it. It is completely unfair to pick on only one candidate when it is being done in one way or another by everyone.

I've seen every single candidate in/around MUSC today appearing to be in campaign mode, and various campaign teams with signs accosting people. I definitely see the point about last-minute campaigning being able to distort the vote, but whatever one thinks of this, all the candidates are doing it to some extent.

I respect both of those statements, but I feel one specific candidate is doing it far more than others, and I happen to know of one candidate and his "team" that has chosen NOT to participate like this and had even offered assistance to the Polling people to be available upon call to calm down any crowd that may form aroudn the polling station... This one candidate wants a fair poll in his name. I highly respected that like you don't even know because it was an AWESOME show of respect for thie democratic process.

was it ash? that guy is just a class act through and through.

like I said Not saying names... But I usually say: Trust your instinct I am only on Casey's board because if he logs on here tonight, I am intersted in his response to all of this...

Originally Posted by neila.b

was it ash? that guy is just a class act through and through.

That would be my guess too but I can't say for sure.

Agreed though, he seems like a really genuinely nice guy and super classy.

Originally Posted by neila.b

was it ash? that guy is just a class act through and through.

I would guess no, because he/his team were holding doors today.
(NOT saying anything bad, I just don't think he is the candidate who said they wouldn't campaign today)

My guess is Mary, because she's the only one I didn't see today.

no, he deffinitly meant ash. i don't think holding doors (although supporters of other candidates will obviously disagree) constitutes as direct campaigning. never heard him say "i'm holding this door for you, btw go vote for me" !