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Old 08-14-2011 at 06:24 PM   #16
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The iPhone 5 wont neccarily need to have a faster processor than the GSII to outperform it. The iPhones have almost always outperformed (or matched performance) of Android phones at a lower clock speed (3GS running at 600MHz vs 800MHz-1GHz Androids, iPhone running at 800MHz vs 1GHz+ Androids). iOS just seems to be better optimized than Android.

Also, I'll be waiting for the next Nexus... unless the iPhone 5 can run on Wind
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Old 08-14-2011 at 06:33 PM   #17
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I'd vote the Galaxy SII once they make a 4g version available. Personally, I'm waiting to see which LTE phones Rogers will put out and then see what happens. Right now though? I'd go Galaxy. I find 3D really tacky and trippy. It's just a phone. Doesn't need to be 3d.
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Old 08-14-2011 at 06:54 PM   #18
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I'd vote the Galaxy SII once they make a 4g version available. Personally, I'm waiting to see which LTE phones Rogers will put out and then see what happens. Right now though? I'd go Galaxy. I find 3D really tacky and trippy. It's just a phone. Doesn't need to be 3d.
The Galaxy SII is 4G according to the Bell and Virgin websites:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.../72602.details
http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/phones...I&colour=Black

The 3D is an option, and can be turned on/off when you need to use it. It's definitely cool being able to take 3D pictures/videos and watching them on a 3DTV or upload them to youtube. And watch the 3D videos that are available on youtube directly on a phone.
Old 08-14-2011 at 07:27 PM   #19
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The Galaxy SII is 4G according to the Bell and Virgin websites:
http://www.bell.ca/shopping/en_CA_ON.../72602.details
http://www.virginmobile.ca/en/phones...I&colour=Black

The 3D is an option, and can be turned on/off when you need to use it. It's definitely cool being able to take 3D pictures/videos and watching them on a 3DTV or upload them to youtube. And watch the 3D videos that are available on youtube directly on a phone.

Here's an interested article from CBC about this '4G' business. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/05/05/f-4g-speedtest.html
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Old 08-14-2011 at 07:44 PM   #20
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I demand source or evidence.
Where's your biblio at, son?
Meh, I'll humour you:

iPhone 3GS Clockspeed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_...r_ and_memory

iPhone 4 clockspeed is based on rumors and indirect tests
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/23/...ly-benchmarks/

600MHz 3GS vs 1GHz Nexus 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVyE...lp age#t=786s

800MHz iPhone 4 vs 1GHz Dual-Core Atrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAoOG...lp age#t=412s

So based on that, I'm assuming the iPhone 5 will be just fine matching the GSII (Or better phone released after it) using a lower clocked prcessor.
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Old 08-14-2011 at 07:46 PM   #21
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Meh, I'll humour you:

iPhone 3GS Clockspeed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_...r_ and_memory

iPhone 4 clockspeed is based on rumors and indirect tests
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/23/...ly-benchmarks/

600MHz 3GS vs 1GHz Nexus 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVyE...lp age#t=786s

800MHz iPhone 4 vs 1GHz Dual-Core Atrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAoOG...lp age#t=412s

So based on that, I'm assuming the iPhone 5 will be just fine matching the GSII (Or better phone released after it) using a lower clocked prcessor.
You know how tedious it is to search through a video as a citation? Just sayin
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You know how tedious it is to search through a video as a citation? Just sayin
Which is why I linked the videos at the exact time he does the app opening comparisons between the two phones...
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Old 08-14-2011 at 07:55 PM   #23
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Which is why I linked the videos at the exact time he does the app opening comparisons between the two phones...
Guess the ad broke the time link, using a video as a reference is still pretty annoying, appreciate the thought though

edit: actualy its the url, i had to remove all that feature=player business
Old 08-14-2011 at 08:15 PM   #24
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Meh, I'll humour you:

iPhone 3GS Clockspeed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_...r_ and_memory

iPhone 4 clockspeed is based on rumors and indirect tests
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/23/...ly-benchmarks/

600MHz 3GS vs 1GHz Nexus 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuVyE...lp age#t=786s

800MHz iPhone 4 vs 1GHz Dual-Core Atrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAoOG...lp age#t=412s

So based on that, I'm assuming the iPhone 5 will be just fine matching the GSII (Or better phone released after it) using a lower clocked prcessor.
Just like to point out that the ATRIX test is using Froyo 2.2. With the release of Gingerbread 2.3 the phone is significantly faster. Also with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich it will only get better. Like you previously said the iOS seems to be better optimized. Well this may have been the case in the past, Android isn't far behind...
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Old 08-14-2011 at 08:48 PM   #25
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GS2. Been using it for about 2 weeks now and its amazing. To keep it short, its quick, pretty easy to use, screen is amazing, and other features like the camera are spectacular.
Old 08-15-2011 at 07:36 AM   #26
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GS2. Been using it for about 2 weeks now and its amazing. To keep it short, its quick, pretty easy to use, screen is amazing, and other features like the camera are spectacular.
I would agree with this. I have had the Galaxy S2 for quite a while now and it is amazing. I like the fact that is is so thin, light weight and not to mention amazing features such as the Swype keyboard. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the benefit of having flash!

To the previous posts about iPhone being more optimized, I would agree. However, my toaster is also extremely optimized for toasting bread. While the iPhone is more optimized than Android, it is limited in its function and extendibility. Not running flash and having an Apple monitored (aka Apple restricted) app market allow Apple to hide the lack of performance behind it's "optimized" software. Jailbreak an iPhone and set it up with the same features as an Android (live wallpapers, widgets, in-browser flash, custom keyboards etc) and it will perform as expected, outdated technology.

That being said, if you just need a phone for the basics the iPhone is great. It might become a bit boring after a while though.
Old 08-15-2011 at 08:10 AM   #27
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Just like to point out that the ATRIX test is using Froyo 2.2. With the release of Gingerbread 2.3 the phone is significantly faster. Also with the release of Ice Cream Sandwich it will only get better. Like you previously said the iOS seems to be better optimized. Well this may have been the case in the past, Android isn't far behind...
Lol they ran test using the current software at that time, stop saying updates are gonna make it better, that is like saying iOS 5 will run even faster and iOS 6, and 3.0 will blow iOS4 out of the water, making these test invalid

Andorid will never be as optimized as iOS, simply because Apple makes both the Hardware & Software for the iPhone, where as Android is written by google and licensed to a very large number of phones making it harder to optimize for the given hardware. It is a simple fact.
For sure the iPhone 5 wont have as fast a processor as the G2 but it will perform just as good.
In the end it is what the person buying the phone prefers, Both Android and iOS have their up's and down's. I personally love the lock screens and customization of Android, but I also like the all around stability of the iPhone.


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I would agree with this. I have had the Galaxy S2 for quite a while now and it is amazing. I like the fact that is is so thin, light weight and not to mention amazing features such as the Swype keyboard. I am surprised that nobody has mentioned the benefit of having flash!

To the previous posts about iPhone being more optimized, I would agree. However, my toaster is also extremely optimized for toasting bread. While the iPhone is more optimized than Android, it is limited in its function and extendibility. Not running flash and having an Apple monitored (aka Apple restricted) app market allow Apple to hide the lack of performance behind it's "optimized" software. Jailbreak an iPhone and set it up with the same features as an Android (live wallpapers, widgets, in-browser flash, custom keyboards etc) and it will perform as expected, outdated technology.

That being said, if you just need a phone for the basics the iPhone is great. It might become a bit boring after a while though.
I have jailbroken my 4 with Masked icons, custom lock screens, wallpapers and it still performed fairly with the only lag coming from opening folders.
I have nothing against Android's just simply stating the facts for both sides. Like I said above the Cutomization out of the box for Android is amazing, it makes the phone a lot more useful and nicer to have and the beefed up processor helps keep it running smooth.

For me iOS is perfect with a jailbreak, but it is not for everyone. You like Android because of its horsepower and customizations making it perfect for you. No need to bash other phones, it just makes the phone your bashing look a lot better.


I should totally make an iOS vs Android vs Win 7 post like i did for Mac vs PC

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Old 08-15-2011 at 08:17 AM   #28
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To the previous posts about iPhone being more optimized, I would agree. However, my toaster is also extremely optimized for toasting bread. While the iPhone is more optimized than Android, it is limited in its function and extendibility. Not running flash and having an Apple monitored (aka Apple restricted) app market allow Apple to hide the lack of performance behind it's "optimized" software. Jailbreak an iPhone and set it up with the same features as an Android (live wallpapers, widgets, in-browser flash, custom keyboards etc) and it will perform as expected, outdated technology.

That being said, if you just need a phone for the basics the iPhone is great. It might become a bit boring after a while though.
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I should totally make an iOS vs Android vs Win 7 post like i did for Mac vs PC
You should do this! Seems to be a lot of phone threads lately...

Anyways you do have some valid points. But saying that Android will never be as optimized as iOS I disagree completely. This may be the case now but maybe this will change with Google's recent purchase of Motorola Mobility.
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You should do this! Seems to be a lot of phone threads lately...

Anyways you do have some valid points. But saying that Android will never be as optimized as iOS I disagree completely. This may be the case now but maybe this will change with Google's recent purchase of Motorola Mobility.
Yeah, way to many xD

Thanks, but that is one specific point I have a hard time believing will change. Android is an open system made for a very large number of phones, where as iOS is specifically coded for 1 to 2 phones. It is a lot easier to optimize that then 100 phones.

Google has no intention of making phones with Motorola, they even said that in their PR release. They are going to let Motorola run as if it wasn't owned by them. The only reason for the deal was so Google would have a much larger patent portfolio (they added 17000+ from Motorola)

To be honest, it would be amazing to see Google make their own hardware and software. It would put Android Miles ahead of iOS.



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