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			06-04-2010 at 01:48 PM
			
						
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		 I'm considering a Toshiba, I've heard a lot of good things. I've been told with Sony you pay too much for the name. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-04-2010 at 01:49 PM
			
						
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				I'm considering a Toshiba, I've heard a lot of good things. I've been told with Sony you pay too much for the name. 
			
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 Probably, but I love the turn off display button   
I absolutely hate toshiba's. They feel weird when using them, and they look very.. boxy.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-04-2010 at 01:53 PM
			
						
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					Originally Posted by  Afzal
					 
				 
				oh but the tonymacx86 iboot runs on pretty much ANY Intel PC. 
			
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 Interesting. I shall investigate for the lulz.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 wow this is turning into an HP thread. I dont have too many problems with HP but before there were comparisons between a macbook pro and an HP (~$900). There is no comparison. The quality of hardware is reflected in the price. You need to compare it to a performance laptop like a dell studio xps, or even better a thinkpad 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-04-2010 at 02:19 PM
			
						
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				wow this is turning into an HP thread. I dont have too many problems with HP but before there were comparisons between a macbook pro and an HP (~$900). There is no comparison. The quality of hardware is reflected in the price. You need to compare it to a performance laptop like a dell studio xps, or even better a thinkpad 
			
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Okay, just for fun, lets compare.
 
MacBook Pro: 15 inch:  $1849
-2.4GHz  Intel Core i5 processor  (lol) 
-320GB 5400-rpm hard drive 					 -Intel HD Graphics 
  					 -NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M graphics processor with 256MB GDDR3  memory
 
 
Now, lets look at a PC that could match/beat those specs: 
Asus K52 Series: K52JC-X1 NoteBook: 
-Intel Core i5, 2.26GHz 
-500GB 5400-rpm hard drive 
-nVidia GeForce 310M: 1GB DDR VRAM DEDICATED Card 
-Price:  $849.99 + $9.99 shipping
As you can see, the ASUS almost tied. Processor is *slightly* slower, but still extremely fast. Harddrive is larger, and graphics hard is much better, 1GB Dedicated!
 
Price difference is almost $1000!
 
Now, you decide. Oh, and keep in mind, the mac now uses an INTEL processor!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-06-2010 at 03:01 AM
			
						
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 That surprises me. I have an Asus N50Vn laptop. Touchpad sensor died, chassis is wobbling itself apart and my graphics card(or screen, cant pinpoint) cuts in and out on occasion.
 
I should have bought a Dell studio XPS, them things look solid.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Personally, I have to say it doesn't matter... 
 
There is this notion that engineering requires laptops with graphics cards or else you wont be able to run the software. That part I found out to be complete bs. Maybe it applied a few years ago when laptops had low-spec onboard graphics, but not  anymore.  
 
I saw plenty of people work with a Athlon X2 systems with 2GB ram, and get through first year just fine. My bigger suggestion would be to get a monitor. It sucked ass working on solidedge on a 15" screen. If your low on cash, grab a used one...if you shop around you can pick up a 19" for around $70 
 
Oh, and get a laptop with long battery life...doesnt mean get a mac, which is complete waste of money as your gonna need to run windows anyways, but get a PC with either a 9 cell battery or something that actually has long battery life.  
 
I'm putting together a new system for next year (based on lessons learned last year) and heres what I'm getting: 
 
Dell Inspiron 1464 with 9 Cell Battery...2.16 GHz Intel i3, 4GB Ram, 320 HDD, Onboard Graphics 
19" Monitor 
 
Costing me around $1100....in other words same price as a Macbook Pro 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		  OR get a desktop with Core i7, 12GB of RAM, 2GB Nvidia 285 gtx, 1,5 TB of space for all that downloading, and a 24" monitor to spread out your part and assembly file on the same screen, allowing extremely easy bs-ing of your final project and it's measurements in 1c03!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
  
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				Interesting. I shall investigate for the lulz. 
			
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 I'm buying a DL DVD-R tomorrow to test this out.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I say, if your going to make the purchase, make it one that will satisfy you for atleast your university life. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				I'm buying a DL DVD-R tomorrow to test this out. 
			
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 Wow... this is amazing. I have the thing installed, and literally ALL of my hardware works :0. I would put it on my laptop, but unfortunately I have an AMD processor and an unsupported video card :(.
 
Now time to pirate the NTFS driver   .
 Protip: Try image the snow leopard ISO on to a USB drive/key instead of a DVD-DL. I wasted many disks trying to burn it without errors on different drives :p.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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				Any benifits to installing it? 
			
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 Good response to people who justify buying a mac computer just because they think OS X > everything.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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					Originally Posted by  Ownaginatios
					 
				 
				Protip: Try image the snow leopard ISO on to a USB drive/key instead of a DVD-DL. I wasted many disks trying to burn it without errors on different drives :p. 
			
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 Thats because you have to mount/open the ISO, delete the file that prevents it from being burned, THEN burn it.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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