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Old 07-13-2010 at 10:13 PM   #76
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Basically it borders on illegal to unilaterally change the "rules" AFTER we signed their residence agreement. It'd be great if everyone just sent them an email telling them their policy change is not acceptable.
Old 07-13-2010 at 10:15 PM   #77
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just bring it in secretly? after move in?XD
Old 07-13-2010 at 10:17 PM   #78
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Basically it borders on illegal to unilaterally change the "rules" AFTER we signed their residence agreement. It'd be great if everyone just sent them an email telling them their policy change is not acceptable.
I don't have the energy to go read it, but I'm sure there's a clause saying that they reserve the right to change things for a justified reason.
Old 07-13-2010 at 10:19 PM   #79
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Money money money...
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Old 07-13-2010 at 10:30 PM   #81
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someone should just link this thread in an e-mail to the Residence people.

Also, all them IRC reps out there time to speak up, THIS is excactly why your around, get on it for the sake of your student body. Thanks.

This has got to be a breach of the residence contract, it wasnt in place before we made our deposits neither were students informed of this rule. ALSO isnt it odd that they announce this AFTER the last date for cancelling residence and recieving $300 back? Its all a money grab and like I said the IRC and SRA need to be voicing our concerns to the school ASAP. If they dont, whats stopping the school for enlisting a fee for anything else without warning? This is absurd and dispicable McMaster, dirty money driven tactics. I hope every student defies this rule this year and brings their own fridge, drive COLDEX out of business and show the residence Admin students can't be pushes around and made to pay random spur of the moment fee's.
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So, I didn't know what the old carts were powered by; however today I saw security driving a cart and it looks like they just bought it, definitively electric. It's very quiet.

That's the thing I hate about electric cars and similar machines. People are tricked into thinking they are doing a good thing for the environment. But if the electricity isn't from a renewable source then they actually aren't. I wonder if scientists have done tests on the amount of electricity required to power a car and what the mileage is of the car, then compare it to fossils fuels by taking into account the amount of electricity that can be generated from fossil fuels.
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Old 07-13-2010 at 11:17 PM   #84
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I swear to god, if i cant bring my amazing mini fridge i will bring 20 power bars and plug every single appliance i can think of and leave it all ALL DAY LONG, 24/7 and be like NO UR ENERGY BILL IS NOT GOING DOWN BI*CHES! GIVE ME BACK MY FRIDGE!

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This won't affect me personally, being off campus and all, but it's still extremely unreasonable and there were so many other ways McMaster could have went about implementing "green" strategies.

I think voicing your opinions to Mac is a great start, but power comes in numbers. Get as many people on the bandwagon as you can - bombard the administration with e-mails, start a petition (http://www.petitionspot.com/)

Just a tip - make sure that in any communication with administration you maintain a clear, concise, and level-headed argument rather than spewing out accusations and being condescending - you don't know the full story and don't want to look like an idiot. It would be wise to come up with alternatives solutions for bringing down energy bills to show that this is something students are thinking about and are willing to integrate into their day by day lives (rather than shelling out more money that may not have).


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i'm not happy about this :( (couldnt think of any other way to sum up my feelings)
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Not if they move buses off-campus. Imagine all your classes being in TSH/CNH/KTH, walking from Main would be a pain. And getting to westdale? -- Though I suppose it only takes 10-15 minutes to walk to westdale anyways..
Either way, the buses are crammed enough as they are. Imagine all the buses running down Main.
I wasn't saying they should do it (although I really do think they should), its something they already are doing. They've been moving buses off campus each year, and someone recently told me they moved more off this year (although I don't live in Hamilton during the summer, so I can't confirm that being true).

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So, I didn't know what the old carts were powered by; however today I saw security driving a cart and it looks like they just bought it, definitively electric. It's very quiet.

That's the thing I hate about electric cars and similar machines. People are tricked into thinking they are doing a good thing for the environment. But if the electricity isn't from a renewable source then they actually aren't. I wonder if scientists have done tests on the amount of electricity required to power a car and what the mileage is of the car, then compare it to fossils fuels by taking into account the amount of electricity that can be generated from fossil fuels.
I know Pen and Teller looked at hybrid cars and why they were actually really inefficient, but they were mainly talking about the gas engine part (that actually gets pretty mediocre mileage, in part because having two motors makes your car a lot heavier), not the electric engine part.

I did find this opinion piece, but its not sourced, and only talks about how transporting energy from fossil fuels as electricity makes electric cars inefficient (although that is a good point I hadn't thought about). It doesn't look at the actual efficiencies of the motor, and I'd still take it with a grain of salt.

I couldn't find any sources talking about that specific comparison, but I think it would vary a lot depending on what cars were looked at.


But yeah, this was a bit of a thread derail. Fridges and such.

While the money Mac gets from the monopoly deal no doubt played a part in this, the more I think about it the more I think its just a way to charge for the extra electricity used by people with fridges. That's really the only reason that the price would be so high in comparison to the price of buying a fridge. And charging people who bring a fridge more would obviously be extremely hard to enforce (or so it would seem if sneaking a fridge into your room is as easy as people make it sound ). Making the only fridges available be from Mac would be the only way to accurately charge that extra money. I guess its slightly better than just charging more for residence, since even if there are a few students who don't buy a fridge they get out of paying that cost.
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I swear to god, if i cant bring my amazing mini fridge i will bring 20 power bars and plug every single appliance i can think of and leave it all ALL DAY LONG, 24/7 and be like NO UR ENERGY BILL IS NOT GOING DOWN BI*CHES! GIVE ME BACK MY FRIDGE!
Reminds me of sponsoring a vegetarian.
http://www.thebestpageintheu nivers....cgi?u=sponsor
This would be a good petition, although they would probably make up the money in people renting fridges anyhow. I think I have an idea about a fridge though...
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haha the worst part is, im living with a CA.. Maybe if I take some masking tape and write coldex on it...hmmm
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I swear to god, if i cant bring my amazing mini fridge i will bring 20 power bars and plug every single appliance i can think of and leave it all ALL DAY LONG, 24/7 and be like NO UR ENERGY BILL IS NOT GOING DOWN BI*CHES! GIVE ME BACK MY FRIDGE!
Thats okay, it will just come out of your res money that goes to mac anyways
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