Originally Posted by jhan523

Buying the fridge from Coldex defeats the purpose McMaster has given for renting out the fridges. Coldex cleans and maintains all their fridges (That why you have to pay a 25$ deposit in case you dirty their fridge). Buying the fridge from Coldex means no more cleaning or maintenance.

I get what you're saying, I guess I was just trying to find another way to own it instead of renting for 4 (or more) years and still keep the powers that be happy.

Originally Posted by Kara.mcgowen

Can the MSU help with this?

I will pass these concerns on to Mary Koziol, MSU President. I cannot promise any immediate results, but hopefully some further explanation. I agree with both arguments -- the university surely hasn't consulted students enough to outright ban them, but at the same time there were probably cases where fridges were drawing huge amounts of energy, causing damage in some way or were being abused.

All I can say in the interim is that students entering res in September should not bring a mini-fridge on move-in day, but instead wait and see if something gets changed due to volume of complaints.

so i just read through the residence agreement/contract we agreed to,

#20. Hoursing and Conference Services reserves the right to terminate residence contracts, reassign students to another residence and/or room on a temporary or permanent basis, and to effect other steps as my be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program

does this account for anything?

Originally Posted by Linh

so i just read through the residence agreement/contract we agreed to,

#20. Hoursing and Conference Services reserves the right to terminate residence contracts, reassign students to another residence and/or room on a temporary or permanent basis, and to effect other steps as my be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program

does this account for anything?

Unless there's another clause that expands on this or nullifies it, it seems to be the "final say of fine print".
It seems natural to expect that there would be some clause like this in all legal documentations, as a penalty free legal fallback. It's definitely in course documentations: I.e. The professors, faculty and departments reserve the right to change the course material or amend the course structure at any time.

Originally Posted by Linh

so i just read through the residence agreement/contract we agreed to,

#20. Hoursing and Conference Services reserves the right to terminate residence contracts, reassign students to another residence and/or room on a temporary or permanent basis, and to effect other steps as my be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program

does this account for anything?

So in other words, the University can unilaterally alter the contract and in reality aren't agreeing to anything on their end?

Originally Posted by Linh

so i just read through the residence agreement/contract we agreed to,

#20. Hoursing and Conference Services reserves the right to terminate residence contracts, reassign students to another residence and/or room on a temporary or permanent basis, and to effect other steps as my be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program

does this account for anything?

I think that juust means they have the right to kick you out if you make everyone feel unconformatable and do something to harm the safety of someone else

Originally Posted by Linh

so i just read through the residence agreement/contract we agreed to,

#20. Hoursing and Conference Services reserves the right to terminate residence contracts, reassign students to another residence and/or room on a temporary or permanent basis, and to effect other steps as my be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program

does this account for anything?

This only mentions that they can terminate our residence contract or move us somewhere else... it doesn't say they can change the terms of agreement. And even so, how would a fridge affect our "safety" "security" or "well- being"?!?

Originally Posted by hitek168

This only mentions that they can terminate our residence contract or move us somewhere else... it doesn't say they can change the terms of agreement. And even so, how would a fridge affect our "safety" "security" or "well- being"?!?

"and to effect other steps as may be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program"

This is so frustrating ... what are they going to tell us next? we have to rent out shampoo, toothbrushes, bed sheets, shoes, wall decor.

fml mac ... like seriously .. why? and don't use the environmentally friendly pizzaz on us because clearly if you wanted to be environmentally friendly you would find other means of doing it without pissing off the whole student population that lives on res at mac

Just to let you all know I am working to set up a meeting with the Manager over at Housing and Conference Services to see what the MSU can do to rectify the situation. It is clear that this is something that affects a lot of students living in residence, and as the body representing all undergraduate McMaster students, we will be playing our part throughout the coming weeks. Will keep you all updated.

Originally Posted by McIntyre

Just to let you all know I am working to set up a meeting with the Manager over at Housing and Conference Services to see what the MSU can do to rectify the situation. It is clear that this is something that affects a lot of students living in residence, and as the body representing all undergraduate McMaster students, we will be playing our part throughout the coming weeks. Will keep you all updated.

realistically are they actually going to listen?
they don't care about us .. .all they care about is sucking money from our bank accounts
yea, all the students are angry .. but it's still going to get them to rent the fridges because we have no other choice
i'd really like to see the day that mac extends a hand to the student population instead of continuously screwing us over with things like these and with mugsi failures

I even was talking to many SOCS who seem furious with the idea, and still some students do not know. second years are especially pissed cause they just bought mini firdges last year and now we cat use them, we can fight this, peaceful protests rule!!lol we culd always just refuse to pay for the rez part of our tution. imagine no one that is living is res is paying for it, then rthey will have a huge problem lol

Originally Posted by goodnews.inc

"and to effect other steps as may be required for the safety, security and well-being of the residents and the residence program"

What I meant was how does this new rule have anything to do with improving our safety, security or well being? Using their fridges doesn't keep us safe, make residence more "secure" or "improve" our "well-being"?

There's now a petition, located at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/macfridge. It's not the best writing in the world, but then again I'm an Eng student, not a Lit major.


Hopefully all us MacInsiders, even some of the lurkers like myself will take the minute to make our opinions heard. They might not listen, but at the least it's something.


Thanks All,
Edward

Ridiculous.
It would have made more sense to send the email when we originally got our residence assignments, some of us have already done out an bought one.