By the way absolutely not digging aikens account. The other media gave firsthand accounts that black bloc members were indeed hiding among the protestors at the point when the police moved in, so he really can't say that there were no black bloc members there.

Originally Posted by arathbon

If you were watching the television coverage of the arrests, the police were arresting those who were either suspected black blocers (who the media reported had changed back into normal clothes to hide), or people who weren't following orders, or people who were interfering with the arrests of those previously mentioned.

The only people I saw "beat" on the tv coverage were those who were resisting arrest. If you're resisting arrest don't think the police are just going to let you go.

I was watching CBC when a bunch of police officers charged at a group of young kids (like under 18). Way too much force imo.

There was also a man standing around and then 5 cops pretty much tackled him to the ground.

I'm sure that just like the protesters, there's only a select few cops who are being overly aggressive out of like 20 000.

Originally Posted by Maegs

Um, not so much...unless their definition of restraint is grabbing random people who are standing around doing nothing and beating them before dragging them off to be arrested...

By "showing restraint" in that instance I meant something along the lines of "not going in with force to take out the rioters while they were rioting". The police had the manpower that they could have prevented a lot of the damage, and a lot of the sentiment was that they should have acted sooner and with more force to prevent the damage (and a few comments about how in other countries the police would have done so). I was just pointing out that it wasn't necessarily because we have a more lax police force that they didn't act against the rioters. It was because moving the police from the secure area (where the most police are, and where the riots started but moved away from) would have compromised the security of the actual G20.

Police Chief Blair confirmed that they thought the riots were an attempt to lure the police from the secure area last night in a press conference.

This is so embarrasing, I saw it on the TV and I had to flick it. I was just like WTF... embarrasing. :|

Do you guys think everything will stop by tomorrow? I need to go downtown tomorrow for some stuff and I really don't want to be in the middle of that b.s.

Originally Posted by IbrahimH

Do you guys think everything will stop by tomorrow? I need to go downtown tomorrow for some stuff and I really don't want to be in the middle of that b.s.

Why do you need to go downtown? Downtown will probably be mostly closed due to clean-up and repairs.

Originally Posted by IbrahimH

Do you guys think everything will stop by tomorrow? I need to go downtown tomorrow for some stuff and I really don't want to be in the middle of that b.s.

I don't see why it wouldn't be. The summit ended today.

Not sure if anyone posted this link yet, but what do you guys think?

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

Originally Posted by Quester

Not sure if anyone posted this link yet, but what do you guys think?

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

Hurrrr, the police must have used Agent Provocateurs because one of the Black Bloc wasn't skinny, and because they have similar boots? The author's tinfoil hat is showing

Originally Posted by Quester

Not sure if anyone posted this link yet, but what do you guys think?

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19928

I LOL'ed.

These idiots are just an embarrassment to our country.

I really wish the cops beat the living sh*t out of some of them. Would just make my day... they deserve nothing less.

Lol, i do agree the justification in that link is extremely poor, considering the vagueness of them. It's clear the author is extremely biased in that situation.

With that said, I'm not a fan of conspiracies at all, but I do think the possibility of some of these 'thugs' were paid by police to participate in some events as well as purposely responding late to things like the cop car burning, but I also think the events will have unfolded without the said 'paid thugs'. I'm in no means knowledgable on police operations, but if I were to guess, the only reason police would have anything to do with what I just said, it would be for them to be able to identify more of the actual criminals and get leads to bigger and more authoritative figures in this insanely-irrational anarchist movement.

Originally Posted by drew4008

These idiots are just an embarrassment to our country.

I really wish the cops beat the living sh*t out of some of them. Would just make my day... they deserve nothing less.

.......cause the first thing that would help a situation with violent people is to be even more violent to them - yay, let's give them what they set out to do!

If one gives them a single chance to say "Look! We were being civil, and then they attacked us!", one has played right into their hands.

I think the whole reason why the police let the riots go on saturday was so that all the trouble makers would be identifiable and have things they could be charged and detained for.

Oh and the agent provocateur is really strange. While I think at Quebec there were some undercover cops planted (and I'm sure there were at this summit there were too) I don't think they're actually allowed to do certain things undercover. Besides which, aren't combat boots part of the black bloc clothing?

the smashing police car was really disrespectful.

sometimes violence does work but in this case the protesters were too few to bring about their desired change.