No more cheap, accessible contraceptives - why?
07-23-2009 at 06:15 PM
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The pharmacy on campus is MUCH cheaper than going to a shoppers drug mart.
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07-23-2009 at 06:30 PM
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Campus Health is a service, not a business and they should be putting students needs first.
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07-23-2009 at 07:29 PM
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I guess most people I know have a deadly fear of being knocked up... haha...
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It's a good fear...so is the fear of HIV and other nasties...
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07-23-2009 at 07:44 PM
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Technically a pill and a condom should be used in conjunction to provide maximum protection, like pregnancy and STDs/STIs. But I don't know anyone who does that.
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Pretty much everyone that i know is active uses both. I just assume most people use both just out of caution which isn't a bad thing. I sucks that this happened but the university is always finding ways to make more money and cut losses, which i dont agree with at all. Its just a ridiculous inconvenience.
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07-23-2009 at 07:49 PM
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Yep, but twice the price I believe($15 vs. $30 if I'm not mistaken).
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I'm pretty sure that that price is wrong cause I remember getting 3 packs for like 35$ all together. whereas at other pharmacies it's about 65$ for all 3 packs together.
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07-23-2009 at 07:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure that that price is wrong cause I remember getting 3 packs for like 35$ all together. whereas at other pharmacies it's about 65$ for all 3 packs together.
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If thats at the campus pharmacy, then I will def. check it out, that is a good price 
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07-23-2009 at 08:35 PM
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campus health service shouldn't have to lose money for your pleasure even if it is to encourage safer sex.
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07-23-2009 at 08:37 PM
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And why are we paying so many fees to Campus Health again???
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With all due respect, there are many, many, many more health concerns than STD/STIs.
If you can pre-emptively go the little extra distance and grab your contraceptives, trust me that that's child's play...if someone is going to be an idiot and refuse to do it because it's a little extra out of their way or they have to pay a little extra, that's their fault.
But have you ever tried going walking to get your antibiotics while you've got a 40 degree fever? How about to get your 'missed course work' form filled out? You didn't have to go very far, because good ole Campus Health is there for emergencies.
When I can predict when I'm going to have a fever and pre-emptively pick up anti-biotics (without a prescription), as well as, or better than I can predict intercourse, then the Shoppers Drug Mart down the street will be sufficient.
Until then, there's Campus Health. I'll pay those fees, thank you very much.
(Sorry but...someone has to point out that Campus Health is still vital, whether it offers contraceptives or not)
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07-23-2009 at 09:09 PM
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It sucks.
Some places give out the contraceptives for free if they find out that you don't have insurance.
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07-23-2009 at 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mowicz
When I can predict when I'm going to have a fever and pre-emptively pick up anti-biotics (without a prescription), as well as, or better than I can predict intercourse, then the Shoppers Drug Mart down the street will be sufficient.
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True. While intercourse is something you can put off until you are properly protected, a fever is a little harder to avoid.
It's just a pain in the butt, and quite frankly I hate how a decision like this was made without consulting students, whereas a decision about what a campus bar would be called went on for several months and half the people on campus were engaged in a heated debate.
I can understand why no business, not even a campus student service would want to operate on a loss, but I find it hard to believe that on a university campus, their contraceptive supply was going unused.
Just my two cents.
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07-23-2009 at 09:57 PM
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The main point of my post was, you shouldn't badmouth the entire service because it 'doesn't happen to do what you want.' It still does a lot of good, very important things, and our eyes shouldn't be guarded against that because of some momentary disappointment.
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I can understand why no business, not even a campus student service would want to operate on a loss, but I find it hard to believe that on a university campus, their contraceptive supply was going unused.
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If it wasn't going unused, then they wouldn't be operating at a loss right? I believe it simply because it'd be nonsensical to terminate the service otherwise...even though common sense dictates that the demand should be high.
If they were selling all their contraceptives and still operating at a loss, then they would have raised the price to break even (and have fewer angry students), as opposed to terminating the service as a whole.
Something about priveledges vs rights comes to mind. The right to contraceptives hasn't been terminated...the priveledge of cheap, 'just around the corner' contraceptives is what's been terminated.
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07-23-2009 at 09:59 PM
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While I agree that withdrawing this will result in some students engaging in unsafe sex, I'm not entirely sure I object.
Making the decision to be sexually active is not a light one and should be made with consideration, time and acceptance of personal responsibility to yourself and your health and to your partner. People had sex before Campus Health provided low cost contraceptives and had to find alternative ways to ensure they were safe.
While this is a convenience and an initiative I applaud (To be clear, providing contraceptives is an initiative I applaud), it's their discretion on how to use the funding they are provided.
To them, university is firstly a place of education and their most important priority is ensuring students are safe and healthy from things they can't control.
However, sex does not fall into that bracket because it's a decision we each make ourselves. They aren't our parents and this is not their responsibility - this is a private matter that students engage in and while it's wonderful and it would be great if they continued to be receptive to our needs... it's not something that is mandatory.
Falling sick is something every human is susceptible to whereas sex is not necessarily something unavoidable.
If we had an HIV pandemic or were uneducated about sex, such as places in India and Africa, I'd strongly oppose this measure.
However we're not uneducated about sex, we don't believe that sleeping with virgins cures AIDS and we have access to contraceptives, albeit more costly.
Our scenario isn't terrible and I know this may come across as very **** retentive and I don't intend it to be; I'm just saying that they're doing us a favour by offering these things in the first place and if they cease, then they're ceasing a privilege, not a right.
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07-23-2009 at 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Mowicz
The main point of my post was, you shouldn't badmouth the entire service because it 'doesn't happen to do what you want.' It still does a lot of good, very important things, and our eyes shouldn't be guarded against that because of some momentary disappointment.
If it wasn't going unused, then they wouldn't be operating at a loss right? I believe it simply because it'd be nonsensical to terminate the service otherwise...even though common sense dictates that the demand should be high.
If they were selling all their contraceptives and still operating at a loss, then they would have raised the price to break even (and have fewer angry students), as opposed to terminating the service as a whole.
Something about priveledges vs rights comes to mind. The right to contraceptives hasn't been terminated...the priveledge of cheap, 'just around the corner' contraceptives is what's been terminated.
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Lmfao we said the same thing at the same time without knowing we were.
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07-23-2009 at 10:48 PM
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Lmfao we said the same thing at the same time without knowing we were.
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lol how come that always happens to you?
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07-23-2009 at 11:04 PM
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THE MSU HEALTH PLAN DOES NOT COVER BIRTH CONTROL
That means: Campus Health was offering a cheaper alternative to students who wanted to be safe, but did not want to shell out $30 a month. $10 is just fine.
That means: those students are now going to be thinking: is $20 extra a month worth it?
please remember that SHEC is there and provides free condoms, so BE SAFE (just don't abuse that!)
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