Originally Posted by lawleypop

1) Correct. I don't respect much. Very astute of you.
2) Don't ever plan on working a day in my life. And even if I did, omgawdz look I can delete my account slash take off all my information?!?!
3) Wasn't going to, but thanks for putting words in my mouth!
4) 'grats on taking my posts seriously. If it isn't obvious which one of my posts are purposely trying to get people riled up, then maybe you lack some reading comprehension skillz.

you sound like a wonderful person

Originally Posted by andrew22

you sound like a wonderful person

Thanks. I like to think so too.

In fact, I like to think that anyone should be honoured to be my friend.
But that's straying offtopic.

Originally Posted by lawleypop

2) Don't ever plan on working a day in my life. And even if I did, omgawdz look I can delete my account slash take off all my information?!?!

Unfortunately, on the internet, nothing can ever be deleted for good. Once something has been posted it, it is next to impossible to delete every copy of it. Chances are that many computers out there have already cached your posts (and mine :S, some of which may have been written in haste and frustration) and it is highly unlikely that deleting your account/deleting your posts on this forum will remove them entirely from the MacInsiders server. Other sites may have copied the posts for various reasons and it may be possible to find what you have written via a simple google search even once you've deleted your account. It is an unfortunate consequence of the internet.

Originally Posted by lawleypop

4) 'grats on taking my posts seriously. If it isn't obvious which one of my posts are purposely trying to get people riled up, then maybe you lack some reading comprehension skillz.

If a post is meant to get "people riled up" it is commonly referred to as a "troll" on internet forums. Trolls are frowned upon in most internet social circles, and are generally viewed in negative light. Unfortunately, when someone is viewed as trolling on a semi-regular basis, many find it difficult to take any of their posts seriously. It becomes rather difficult to take anything they say seriously, and most of what the type is regarded as trolling.

As for it being obvious which posts are purposeful trolls and which are not: On the internet it is quite difficult to read sarcasm, as body language and tone of voice are lacking. I have been caught many times trying to be sarcastic and instead being taking seriously on the likes of MSN.

Personally, through this entire affair I have not been perfect either. Some of my posts have possibly been written in hast and frustration, leading me to write things I may not be entirely happy with and possibly disrespecting others. I have also been guilty of "feeding the trolls" in many situations, which is also against common internet forum protocol as the general rule for dealing with trolls is to pay no attention to them or their posts.

Originally Posted by talues

Unfortunately, on the internet, nothing can ever be deleted for good. Once something has been posted it, it is next to impossible to delete every copy of it. Chances are that many computers out there have already cached your posts (and mine :S, some of which may have been written in haste and frustration) and it is highly unlikely that deleting your account/deleting your posts on this forum will remove them entirely from the MacInsiders server. Other sites may have copied the posts for various reasons and it may be possible to find what you have written via a simple google search even once you've deleted your account. It is an unfortunate consequence of the internet.



If a post is meant to get "people riled up" it is commonly referred to as a "troll" on internet forums. Trolls are frowned upon in most internet social circles, and are generally viewed in negative light. Unfortunately, when someone is viewed as trolling on a semi-regular basis, many find it difficult to take any of their posts seriously. It becomes rather difficult to take anything they say seriously, and most of what the type is regarded as trolling.

As for it being obvious which posts are purposeful trolls and which are not: On the internet it is quite difficult to read sarcasm, as body language and tone of voice are lacking. I have been caught many times trying to be sarcastic and instead being taking seriously on the likes of MSN.

Personally, through this entire affair I have not been perfect either. Some of my posts have possibly been written in hast and frustration, leading me to write things I may not be entirely happy with and possibly disrespecting others. I have also been guilty of "feeding the trolls" in many situations, which is also against common internet forum protocol as the general rule for dealing with trolls is to pay no attention to them or their posts.

1) I'll take the chances of my life being ruined over something as trivial as this.

It's kind of obvious which of my posts are "trolling."
I've had many good discussions on these forums, stating my opinion without getting riled up or sarcastic.

Needless to say, if something normally starts with a big "LOL" and proceeds to insult someone, chances are it's trolling.

You see, I'm pro at the interwebz.

Seriously though. Life isn't meant to be taken seriously. Posting something on the internet isn't going to ruin my life. And if it does, I'm perfectly happy just smoking up all day, every day and playing guitar.

You don't need to be well loved to get drugs or music.

Edit: As Taunton pointed out "You really don't know lawley."
It's OBVIOUS to the non-newbies of this forum which of my posts are serious and which aren't. And it's those newbies who are getting "offended" at my non-serious and extremely exaggerated posts.

Edit: I do know about caches, but thanks for the information anyways. But what I'm trying to say... 10 years down the road, will people really be able to easily find some random stupid posts I wrote when I was 19? Probably not.

If you ever get into politics or some other high-profile position, you'd be surprised. I already know of a political campaign that was destroyed when the candidate's posting history on freerepublic was revealed. She wouldn't have won anyway given where she was running, but all it took was one person digging around to find her username. It all went downhill from there. Her career is probably ruined by now.

Originally Posted by Shanel

If you ever get into politics or some other high-profile position, you'd be surprised. I already know of a political campaign that was destroyed when the candidate's posting history on freerepublic was revealed. She wouldn't have won anyway given where she was running, but all it took was one person digging around to find her username. It all went downhill from there. Her career is probably ruined by now.

Refer back to "I never plan on working a day in my life."

You guys can argue this to me all you want - I'll agree it applies to other people, but it won't to me.

And this isn't some sort of invincibility complex. I'll just never be in a position where my actions as a young adult will ruin my life forever.

If I wanted to be a politician, I wouldn't be posting like an idiot.

Originally Posted by lawleypop

1) I'll take the chances of my life being ruined over something as trivial as this.

It's kind of obvious which of my posts are "trolling."
I've had many good discussions on these forums, stating my opinion without getting riled up or sarcastic.

Needless to say, if something normally starts with a big "LOL" and proceeds to insult someone, chances are it's trolling.

You see, I'm pro at the interwebz.

Seriously though. Life isn't meant to be taken seriously. Posting something on the internet isn't going to ruin my life. And if it does, I'm perfectly happy just smoking up all day, every day and playing guitar.

You don't need to be well loved to get drugs or music.

Edit: As Taunton pointed out "You really don't know lawley."
It's OBVIOUS to the non-newbies of this forum which of my posts are serious and which aren't. And it's those newbies who are getting "offended" at my non-serious and extremely exaggerated posts.

Edit: I do know about caches, but thanks for the information anyways. But what I'm trying to say... 10 years down the road, will people really be able to easily find some random stupid posts I wrote when I was 19? Probably not.

Well, I really hope that what you've posted here doesn't end up finding it's way back to you in the future whatever it is you decide to do with your life. I don't agree with having things you did as a teenager/young adult come back and bit you in the ass later in life, but it can and has happened. My post was merely thrown out there as a warning towards what can occur and was in no way meant to me malicious or anything along the lines.

I don't necessarily agree with your point about life not being meant to be taken seriously, but I can respect your opinion on the matter. Unfortunately, I still find trolling, especially in the middle of what some may feel is semi-serious discussion, to not be in the spirit of this or any other internet forums. That being said, I will try and take more care in distinguishing which of your posts are trolls and which are not.

Maybe I just need to loosen up a bit on all this strike talk? At least I'm not letting this strike/strike talk affect the rest of my life. THAT would be a shame

Originally Posted by Eugene

That, is truly a shame to the trees. I will bring this up and propose perhaps to offer flyers to drivers that show interest in more info.

I did not make it out to campus today, how is the sound/volume situation like on your side of the res today?

Music was not an issue today..thank you very much for getting that sorted out..however we had a period of the day with an individual on a microphone talking for what felt like an hour or so loudly through speakers to motorists...we complained and after a long delay he stopped talking..but its good to see you guys listened about the music..just avoid bringing the speakers all together from now on...its less of a temptation to make noise and bother us in residence..Thanks agin

Scrub:

I haven't posted on the union blog about the flyers yet, so I will mention both of your concerns when I do make a post later tonight.

I'd like to think the picketing is to let our presence bring awareness to the situation, intentionally upsetting people was and is never the plan. I am glad communication of concerns can be carried out in a civil manner and also thank you for the maturity you have brought into this discussion.

Originally Posted by Andrea F.

Phil,

I'm Andrea Farquhar, the director of Public Relations at McMaster. Sorry to hear about your ankle. If you contact Terry Sullivan in parking he will be able to help. His email is [email protected] I've given him a heads up that you'll be in touch.

I have to say that I am honestly impressed, and would like to commend the school's, and in particular Andrea Farquhar's, action on proactively stepping in to compassionately help out a student in need.

Phil: Could you follow up on this thread on the outcome? I would like to bring your case to the union's blog as well. I think out of all fairness, a kind gesture from the school in the current circumstances should be known to the union members.

Originally Posted by andrew22

they are the people who mark nearly everything you do... and help you with most questions right?

TAs are important to Mac, that's for sure. But it's clear from the way that tutorials are running and marks are being redistributed, it's not like the school is going to crumble without them.

TAs at McMaster are very different than TAs at York (for example). They play a large part in education but I don't think many people would consider them "the backbone of education".

Originally Posted by arathbon

Far cry from 200 at Cootes and 50 at Sterling. Who do they think they're kidding?

When I left school at 9:30 this morning, Sterling had 6, plus a few standing having a coffee. MAYBE 12 total. I lol'd.

Given the recent developments, the picket lines are probably out there as a reminder that we're still on strike rather than to have the line's presence to cause attention and awareness.

Hopefully the general membership meeting for the union being held on Sunday or push things forward one way or another.