Originally Posted by Phoenix

know Emerson screwed up and screwed up BIG. Don't get me wrong I'm upset as well, as I'm a Welcome Week Rep for Hedden and my buddies and I helped out with Brandon move-in, move-out and move-in (hotels). However, as much as I like to let people express their feelings, I ask you to put yourself in his situation right now. He's pretty much screwed for life, and I'm sure all the Brandonites want blood lol. Moreover, his parents are out 50 grand, he's due in court, facing serious jail time. What's flaming him going to accomplish? NOTHING, he cant view this forum. Just leave it alone, he's probably in hell as it is, no need to treat him worse.

They're only out 50 grand if he doesn't show to his court date.

Doesn't anyone watch Dog the Bounty Hunter?

Originally Posted by Alistair

The people with insane privacy settings are pretty creepy, if you ask me. What are you trying to hide?

Many people on this thread have already stated the obvious in regards to this statement. All that I have to say is that you are clearly grasping at mere threads of an argument here. Trying to attack me personally instead of my argument is lame no matter what way you look at it.

And I personally don't give a damn about whether or not you think I'm creepy or anything else for that matter. I try to stay away from peoples personal issues when having a debate with them. Maybe you should try it.

I couldn't agree more with what Nicole said that all mistakes are equal and its the rules of the society that perceives them differently. I can give a page load of examples to prove that. But that would be off topic. Somewhere down the line I still feel either the guy was too drunk or its a prank that's gone horribly wrong(Been there.... done that and paid a lot of penalties for that too). But then that's for the court to decide.

Originally Posted by kokosas

Many people on this thread have already stated the obvious in regards to this statement. All that I have to say is that you are clearly grasping at mere threads of an argument here. Trying to attack me personally instead of my argument is lame no matter what way you look at it.

And I personally don't give a damn about whether or not you think I'm creepy or anything else for that matter. I try to stay away from peoples personal issues when having a debate with them. Maybe you should try it.

You tried, but you can't, because your entire post was devoted to bashing me.

Alistair, quit trolling this thread.

Originally Posted by Alistair

You tried, but you can't, because your entire post was devoted to bashing me.

No doubt about it, I've been ripping you apart this entire time. But you'll notice that I haven't been dragging your personal life into it. Nor did I ever suggest that you might be a 'creep' because of your facebook privacy settings, or that you 'have something to hide' as you did to me.

Originally Posted by kokosas

No doubt about it, I've been ripping you apart this entire time. But you'll notice that I haven't been dragging your personal life into it. Nor did I ever suggest that you might be a 'creep' because of your facebook privacy settings, or that you 'have something to hide' as you did to me.

You've done no such things. It's me who's pointed out A) that you think you're the "den mother" and have to warn us foolish youngsters from threatening someone and B) you've got something to hide; thus, the crazy facebook settings.

I think you need to look in a mirror before you post again.

Originally Posted by Alistair

I believe in freedom of information, and that includes information about one's personal life.

Woah...you better start practicing what you preach because I can't seem to be able to search for your facebook profile...So much for talking about "creeps"...
LMFAO!!!

Originally Posted by Alistair

You've done no such things. It's me who's pointed out A) that you think you're the "den mother" and have to warn us foolish youngsters from threatening someone and B) you've got something to hide; thus, the crazy facebook settings.

I think you need to look in a mirror before you post again.

Honestly, your logic amazes me.

A) Go ahead and call me the 'den mother'. Part of what it means to be a member of MacInsiders is to look out for your fellow students. I've already stated the obvious: that sometimes people do stupid things, whether that is because of the heat of the moment, drunkeness, whatever. We ALL do stupid things. The whole Brandon fire is a blatant reminder of that. Reminding students to NOT do stupid things that can get them in legal trouble doesn't mean I'm mothering people. If I was mothering people I'd be reminding them to wash behind their ears and do their homework before going to Quarters on a Thursday night.

B) I've got nothing to hide other than my privacy. I don't want random people looking up things about me. I don't know if you've ever heard this term before, "internet stalker", but it's a common occurance in these days and I'd rather not open up the door to one and say "Hey! C'mon, check out all these pictures of me, find out what school I go to so you can come here and look for me or other young girls". Excuse me for being careful with my saftey.

And on that note, you can't just go around saying that people have something to hide, or that they're creepy because they have high privacy settings. Who are you to make that judgement call? You have no basis other than your own opinion which, sorry to say, in the academia world doesn't hold for much unless you've got a PhD hidden away in there somewhere? If you're going to make a claim, back it up with fact, with truth.

I agree with Sabrina.

That said, I believe what's going on here is called (in the Freudian world) "denial".
I guess trying to win a losing battle does have its merits...

Honestly, Sabrina, who died and made you boss? We're all adults here--we're in university. We don't NEED to be reminded not to threaten people on the internet. No one wants to be told what to do, and frankly, it's annoying.

As for the facebook thing, let me look at your profile so I can judge for myself what you're hiding or not hiding. You ought to have an open-door policy...haven't you heard of transparency? Another thing: people with crazy privacy settings tend to be highly paranoid. What are you afraid of? What do you think is actually going to happen to YOU of all people?

And on that note, I think I'm lucky I don't know you in real life.

Originally Posted by Alistair

Honestly, Sabrina, who died and made you boss? We're all adults here--we're in university. We don't NEED to be reminded not to threaten people on the internet. No one wants to be told what to do, and frankly, it's annoying.

As for the facebook thing, let me look at your profile so I can judge for myself what you're hiding or not hiding. You ought to have an open-door policy...haven't you heard of transparency? Another thing: people with crazy privacy settings tend to be highly paranoid. What are you afraid of? What do you think is actually going to happen to YOU of all people?

And on that note, I think I'm lucky I don't know you in real life.

No one died and made ANYONE boss here. And if you haven't noticed, being in university isn't a automatic pass into adulthood or do I need to remind you of the Brandon fire incident? Unless, of course, you're calling that an adult action.

And I wasn't telling YOU what to do. I made a general comment which I am completely entitled to do. If you don't like it, don't read my posts on MacInsiders. Frankly, I don't care.

Again, you keep making these assumptions that you have NO PROOF of. Highly paranoid? That's like saying someone is paranoid for locking their door behind them. Protecting yourself from the possibility of harm is not paranoia. Thinking that everywhere you turn someone is out to get you, that'd being paranoid.

Maybe you should hunt up some statistics on how many young people in our country alone are stalked by people via the internet and sometimes harmed by them and perhaps you wouldn't think it so paranoid to protect yourself against that.

And no, I won't let you look at my facebook profile for two reasons:

A) You are in no position to judge me, and considering the fact that you openly stated that you want to look at my profile so you can pass judgement on me, I think I'll pass

B) I only let my friends look at my profile page. You are not one of them.

Oh, and while we're on the topic of Facebook privacy settings that are apparently a sign of ones mental state of mind. Why is it that your facebook profile doesn't show up when searched? Or do you not even have one? So by your reasoning, you must have a lot to hide if you don't even have a facebook profile.

Yea, I really interpretted that "turn off your privacy settings so I can judge you" to be... uber uber creepy.

Please, you guys. Put this senseless bickering aside and do something constructive.

I for one am going to douse this flame war in gasoline for the lulz. I can see you are all trying to drag stuff you probably learned recently in your psychology / other APS courses into this.

To the person that said all mistakes are equal, I agree with you. That is, if you consider a mistake to equal exactly one screw up, regardless of scale.

The outcomes of mistakes, however, are not equal. There is also the fact that a mistake is defined as "a wrong action attributable to bad judgment or ignorance or inattention". This whole Brandon fire thing does not classify as a mistake because there is no way in hell that this guy was unable to see the outcome of lighting a building on fire. No one can accidentally douce a bunch of newspapers in alcohol and light them on fire, same as how Hitler didn't accidentally kill six million jews (w00t, Godwin's law is true).

So therefore I win.

Originally Posted by Ownaginatios

I for one am going to douse this flame war in gasoline for the lulz. I can see you are all trying to drag stuff you probably learned recently in your psychology / other APS courses into this.

To the person that said all mistakes are equal, I agree with you. That is, if you consider a mistake to equal exactly one screw up, regardless of scale.

The outcomes of mistakes, however, are not equal. There is also the fact that a mistake is defined as "a wrong action attributable to bad judgment or ignorance or inattention". This whole Brandon fire thing does not classify as a mistake because there is no way in hell that this guy was unable to see the outcome of lighting a building on fire. No one can accidentally douce a bunch of newspapers in alcohol and light them on fire, same as how Hitler didn't accidentally kill six million jews (w00t, Godwin's law is true).

So therefore I win.

ERTW!!!!